# Is Donald Trump really THAT bad? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 6, 2017, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135 "2017-02-06T00:58:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/81 "2017-02-10T14:55:17Z")
I don’t know how to label the following… hilarious, ironic, pathetic, or just _DUH??_ The obvious response to the title of the article is “no fucking joke.” :smack: > [@](#): > > **Trump vexed by challenges, scale of government** > _The new president’s allies say he has been surprised that government can’t be run like his business_. > Being president is harder than Donald Trump thought, according to aides and allies who say that he’s growing increasingly frustrated with the challenges of running the massive federal bureaucracy. > > In interviews, nearly two dozen people who’ve spent time with Trump in the three weeks since his inauguration said that his mood has careened between surprise and anger as he’s faced the predictable realities of governing, from congressional delays over his cabinet nominations and legal fights holding up his aggressive initiatives to staff in-fighting and leaks. > > The administration’s rocky opening days have been a setback for a president who, as a billionaire businessman, sold himself to voters as being uniquely qualified to fix what ailed the nation. Yet it has become apparent, say those close to the president, most of whom requested anonymity to describe the inner workings of the White House, that the transition from overseeing a family business to running the country has been tough on him. > > Trump often asks simple questions about policies, proposals and personnel. And, when discussions get bogged down in details, the president has been known to quickly change the subject — to “seem in control at all times,” one senior government official said … > > [http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/donald-trump-challenges-governing-presidency-234879](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/donald-trump-challenges-governing-presidency-234879) ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/82 "2017-02-10T17:30:29Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I don’t know how to label the following… hilarious, ironic, pathetic, or just _DUH??_ The obvious response to the title of the article is “no fucking joke.” :smack: > [@](#): > > …his mood has careened between surprise and anger… > > After Trump grew infuriated… > > …and Trump’s anger over them… > > He also became aggravated… > > Trump “was furious,” this person said. “He doesn’t like this shit. > > For all his frustrations… > > …the tension has been intensified by the president’s propensity for knee-jerk micromanaging when faced with disappointment… > > …the president, who is obsessive about looks and appearance, even was unhappy with a Saturday Night Live parody… > > For all of Trump’s frustrations about staff drama… But, but… Didn’t Trump say his greatest asset was his temperament? 😕 Maybe he put too many letters on the end of that word. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/83 "2017-02-10T18:27:50Z")
You mean to tell me that running the US government doesn’t have much in common with running a business? Next you’ll try to tell me that sovereign debt is not just like corporate or personal debt. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/84 "2017-02-10T19:19:11Z")
I caught the so-called President on the radio about 20 minutes ago-- I guess it was the thing with the Japanese Prime Minister. Trump actually said (in essence), “We’ve lost a lot of jobs. A lot of factories have closed. But those jobs are coming back. To Michigan, Ohio, North Carolina. We’re going to be making some announcements in the next…short period of time. Some of you know what those announcements will be.” He mentioned Intel and Ford and implied credit was due him. Did anyone else hear these remarks? How can he stand there and say the jobs that went away are coming back? Never mind. ETA. > [@Bayard](#): > > You mean to tell me that running the US government doesn’t have much in common with running a business? Next you’ll try to tell me that sovereign debt is not just like corporate or personal debt. I’m not convinced he knows all that much about running a business. It makes me nuts when people act like government debt is just like personal debt. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/85 "2017-02-10T19:22:52Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I caught the so-called President on the radio about 20 minutes ago-- I guess it was the thing with the Japanese Prime Minister. Trump actually said (in essence), “We’ve lost a lot of jobs. A lot of factories have closed. But those jobs are coming back. To Michigan, Ohio, North Carolina. We’re going to be making some announcements in the next…short period of time. Some of you know what those announcements will be.” He mentioned Intel and Ford and implied credit was due him. > > Did anyone else hear these remarks? How can he stand there and say the jobs that went away are coming back? Never mind. > ETA. > I’m not convinced he knows all that much about running a business. He’s a pathological lying cunt. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/86 "2017-02-10T19:23:48Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > He’s a pathological lying cunt. I KNEW there was an explanation! ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/87 "2017-02-10T20:48:35Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > He’s a pathological lying cunt. You’ll get arse splinters from sitting on the fence like that! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/88 "2017-02-10T22:11:35Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > But, but… Didn’t Trump say his greatest asset was his temperament? The scary thing is Trump just might be correct on that. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/89 "2017-02-10T22:46:59Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I don’t know how to label the following… hilarious, ironic, pathetic, or just _DUH??_ The obvious response to the title of the article is “no fucking joke.” :smack: I bet grey-haired Obama’s having \*serious \*occular nerve stress injuries right about now. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2017, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/90 "2017-02-11T00:11:00Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I don’t know how to label the following… hilarious, ironic, pathetic, or just _DUH??_ The obvious response to the title of the article is “no fucking joke.” :smack: Let’s take a poll (fake polls and fake news yada yada) Who actually voted for this asshole? Who is actually happy with his yuuuuuuuuuuge clusterfuck? Bonus question… Who else, in our history, ever had so many colossal fuckups, in so short a time? ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2017, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/91 "2017-02-11T01:31:09Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Judge for yourself. And the answer is no, not yet. That latter qualification is important. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2017, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/92 "2017-02-11T01:35:47Z")
Is Donald Trump really that bad? Yes. Worse. “Am I Imagining This?” [https://nyti.ms/2ktp1Tb](https://nyti.ms/2ktp1Tb) > [@](#): > > … > The enormity of the defiling of the White House in just three weeks is staggering. For decades the world’s security was undergirded by America’s word. The words that issued from the Oval Office were solemn. It was on America’s word, as expressed by the president, that the European continent and allies like Japan built their postwar security. > > Now the words that fall from Trump’s pursed lips or, often misspelled, onto his Twitter feed are trite or false or meaningless. … Our so-called President has placed our country’s reputation in the eyes of the world at serious risk. After only three weeks. What will that reputation be in \<_gulp_\> four years? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2017, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/93 "2017-02-11T01:52:10Z")
So much ineptitude. So little time. Does The Donald know how to shake hands? With a man, that is. We know what he does with women. Check out these clips. He grabs a guy’s hand and pulls the man forcefully toward him. Look carefully at the roll-eyes expression on Abe’s face when he breaks free of The Trump Grip. > **[Does Donald Trump Know How To Shake Hands? An Investigation](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-handshakes_n_589e2d45e4b03df370d65e55?3rs66nnt3eu8cwhfr=)** > > The answer is definitive. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2017, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/94 "2017-02-11T02:17:36Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > So much ineptitude. So little time. > > Does The Donald know how to shake hands? With a man, that is. We know what he does with women. Check out these clips. He grabs a guy’s hand and pulls the man forcefully toward him. Look carefully at the roll-eyes expression on Abe’s face when he breaks free of The Trump Grip. > > [Does Donald Trump Know How To Shake Hands? An Investigation | HuffPost Entertainment](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-handshakes_us_589e2d45e4b03df370d65e55?3rs66nnt3eu8cwhfr) I am guessing it’s a weird dominance thing? I guess? Like a tug of war. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2017, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/95 "2017-02-11T02:27:44Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > So much ineptitude. So little time. > > Does The Donald know how to shake hands? With a man, that is. We know what he does with women. Check out these clips. He grabs a guy’s hand and pulls the man forcefully toward him. Look carefully at the roll-eyes expression on Abe’s face when he breaks free of The Trump Grip. > > [Does Donald Trump Know How To Shake Hands? An Investigation | HuffPost Entertainment](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-handshakes_us_589e2d45e4b03df370d65e55?3rs66nnt3eu8cwhfr) Maybe that’s what inspired [this thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=818621&highlight=hand) ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2017, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/96 "2017-02-11T03:41:49Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > So much ineptitude. So little time. > > Does The Donald know how to shake hands? With a man, that is. We know what he does with women. Check out these clips. He grabs a guy’s hand and pulls the man forcefully toward him. It’s a dominance display, pure and simple. I want to see what happens the day he tries that and the other guy doesn’t move an inch. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2017, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/97 "2017-02-11T12:05:22Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > It’s a dominance display, pure and simple. I want to see what happens the day he tries that and the other guy doesn’t move an inch. I’m thinking, Putin. Hehe. Or Angela Merkel. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2017, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/98 "2017-02-11T15:41:00Z")
Trump is too much of a coward to try that shit with anybody he fears will stand up to him. ---
**Author:** ![Bookkeeper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bookkeeper/32/281_2.png) [@Bookkeeper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bookkeeper)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/99 "2017-02-12T16:10:03Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > As has been reported in more than one thread, during his Comedy Central roast, the ONLY thing that he said was off limits for the comedians was how much money he had. It was okay to attack his family (Lisa Lampenelli referring to his wife as “insert name here,” Snoop saying about a possible White House run as “it wouldn’t be the first time you forced a black family out of their house.”), but not his money. Trump clearly saw money as the sole indicator of success. Multiple wives? I can have them because I’m a winning billionaire! Presidential campaign? I can do it because I’m a winning billionaire! Housing discrimination? I can ignore the law because I"M A WINNING BILLIONAIRE!!! He seems to have recently added public adulation as another sign of success, for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/100 "2017-02-12T18:18:59Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Our so-called President has placed our country’s reputation in the eyes of the world at serious risk. After only three weeks. What will that reputation be in \<_gulp_\> four years? Let me put it this way : first y’all gave us W, and we were like “what a bunch of fucking idiots”. Then you elected Obama and we were like “Well, OK, at least they can learn from their mistakes”. Now we’re like “Are you fucking with us ?!” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135.md?page=6)