# Is eight hours too long to go without being offered a drink of water? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 14, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-eight-hours-too-long-to-go-without-being-offered-a-drink-of-water/826130 "2018-12-14T17:51:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2018, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-eight-hours-too-long-to-go-without-being-offered-a-drink-of-water/826130/161 "2018-12-18T04:17:51Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > I don’t see how you don’t believe that. It seems self evident to me that people wouldn’t do a dangerous thing if there was a safe way to do it that was both legal and encouraged. Well, just one group of people that would do it are those who know that they wouldn’t pass the background check you mention (or have taken it and failed.) ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-eight-hours-too-long-to-go-without-being-offered-a-drink-of-water/826130/162 "2018-12-18T21:51:06Z")
> [@EscAlaMike](#): > > It’s a tragedy that all of these Central Americans are risking so much just to come here. > > Are they being lied to about what’s waiting for them in the good ol’ USA? > > I was speaking to an immigrant from Germany recently. She came here (legally) when she was in her 20s I believe. She claims that she was always told that as soon as you arrived on American soil, you would instantly become rich. The mechanics of how this would happen, I didn’t ask, nor did she say. > > Do many people in other countries really believe that? This lady wasn’t lying, she really believed it. Sounds like a very different German that the ones I know and I have been living there for over 50 years, perhaps she came over from the East immediately after the fall of the Berlin Wall? There was a minority that had strange ideas back then, but they learnt quickly not to believe TV commercials. ---
**Author:** ![Dacien](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dacien/32/5663_2.png) [@Dacien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dacien)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2018, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-eight-hours-too-long-to-go-without-being-offered-a-drink-of-water/826130/163 "2018-12-18T23:19:44Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > I really don’t understand how anyone can be so callous as to say, “Well rules is rules, they shouldn’t have tried crossing the desert” when we’re talking about dead 7 year old kids. It’s fucking sick. You mean the crossing the desert part that seems to have played a role in the child’s death? Yeah, I’m going to go ahead and be “callous” and say that was a bad decision. ---
**Author:** ![Dacien](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dacien/32/5663_2.png) [@Dacien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dacien)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2018, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-eight-hours-too-long-to-go-without-being-offered-a-drink-of-water/826130/164 "2018-12-18T23:34:08Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > No, no, as he modestly informs us in post #50, **Dacien** represents nothing less than Truth™ itself. Specifically, he represents “Truth™ from a conservative angle”. I would say the truth that I’m interested in telling comes from a place of conservatism, which includes the rule of law. I could tell you all about how Obama was mischaracterized when he said, “You didn’t build that.” He meant the preceding statement about infrastructure, not that the government had a majority stake in businesses supported by that infrastructure. Or how Sadiq Khan’s infamous “part and parcel” statement was simply about being prepared for the worst, not that we should just accept terror attacks as unavoidable. As a conservative though, inaccuracies against the right (or by the left), are usually what raise my hackles, so I’m often telling the truth from a conservative point of view. Everybody, for the most part, does this. Many people will eviscerate Trump for his false statements, but have nothing to really say about falsehoods on their own side. The passion they have for the truth only bubbles to the surface if the issue is angled a certain way. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-eight-hours-too-long-to-go-without-being-offered-a-drink-of-water/826130/165 "2018-12-19T00:14:57Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > Sounds like a very different German that the ones I know and I have been living there for over 50 years, perhaps she came over from the East immediately after the fall of the Berlin Wall? There was a minority that had strange ideas back then, but they learnt quickly not to believe TV commercials. There were televisions in East Germany? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-eight-hours-too-long-to-go-without-being-offered-a-drink-of-water/826130/166 "2018-12-19T01:24:53Z")
> [@Dacien](#): > > I would say the truth that I’m interested in telling comes from a place of conservatism, which includes the rule of law. Oh, horse shit is all that is. Look at what’s happening with the rule of law in the US to “born and bred” Americans. You say you want people to comply with the law, but when people comply with the law and still get killed by the authorities, what then? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-eight-hours-too-long-to-go-without-being-offered-a-drink-of-water/826130/167 "2018-12-19T01:35:18Z")
> [@Dacien](#): > > … so I’m often telling the truth from a conservative point of view. … Dumbfuck. ---
**Author:** ![Dacien](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dacien/32/5663_2.png) [@Dacien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dacien)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-eight-hours-too-long-to-go-without-being-offered-a-drink-of-water/826130/168 "2018-12-19T01:47:17Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Dumbfuck. This is the pit, after all. I cannot reasonably expect a useful response. The benefit, however, to a loose ruleset on this sort of thing, is that it encourages more people to just vent their displeasure outright, as opposed to the necessity of crafting a carefully-worded troll response that might pass the sniff test more rigorous moderation would require. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-eight-hours-too-long-to-go-without-being-offered-a-drink-of-water/826130/169 "2018-12-19T01:54:53Z")
Oh, it was useful. But then, you’re a dumbfuck. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-eight-hours-too-long-to-go-without-being-offered-a-drink-of-water/826130/170 "2018-12-19T14:35:27Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > There were televisions in East Germany? _Nineteen Eighty-four_ style where you can’t turn them off and the TV watches _you_. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-eight-hours-too-long-to-go-without-being-offered-a-drink-of-water/826130/171 "2018-12-25T19:08:06Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Are mean people attracted to this sort of job, or are they just very stupid? Both. They like having the power to fuck with people and get away with it. Professional bullies I guess. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-eight-hours-too-long-to-go-without-being-offered-a-drink-of-water/826130/172 "2018-12-25T19:09:27Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I don’t see how you know this. She was alive when they got there, and she was hungry and dehydrated. How do you know that getting her fluids and then nutrition wouldn’t have saved her? > > I see no reason to assume things that in any way exonerate Trump. That they didn’t even try is still damning. And this. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-eight-hours-too-long-to-go-without-being-offered-a-drink-of-water/826130/173 "2018-12-25T19:10:52Z")
> [@Dacien](#): > > I would say the truth that I’m interested in telling comes from a place of conservatism, which includes the rule of law. > > I could tell you all about how Obama was mischaracterized when he said, “You didn’t build that.” He meant the preceding statement about infrastructure, not that the government had a majority stake in businesses supported by that infrastructure. > > Or how Sadiq Khan’s infamous “part and parcel” statement was simply about being prepared for the worst, not that we should just accept terror attacks as unavoidable. > > As a conservative though, inaccuracies against the right (or by the left), are usually what raise my hackles, so I’m often telling the truth from a conservative point of view. Everybody, for the most part, does this. Many people will eviscerate Trump for his false statements, but have nothing to really say about falsehoods on their own side. The passion they have for the truth only bubbles to the surface if the issue is angled a certain way. Take your “both sides” shit and shove it up your ass. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-eight-hours-too-long-to-go-without-being-offered-a-drink-of-water/826130/174 "2018-12-25T20:23:47Z")
And ,… Another child died in custody today, on Christmas. > **[An 8-year-old Guatemalan child dies in U.S. custody on Christmas Eve after...](https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-border-patrol-death-20181225-story.html)** > > An 8-year-old Guatemalan boy died late Christmas Eve in the custody of U.S. immigration authorities, the second death in less than three weeks of a child in detention and a searing new emblem of Trump administration border policies that critics are... ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-eight-hours-too-long-to-go-without-being-offered-a-drink-of-water/826130/175 "2018-12-25T22:11:01Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > And ,… > > Another child died in custody today, on Christmas. > > [An 8-year-old Guatemalan child dies in U.S. custody on Christmas Eve after being treated for a cold](https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-border-patrol-death-20181225-story.html) Died while Trump whined about being “alone” in a mansion surrounded by servants bringing him plentiful food and drink, while top-of-the-line medical personnel stand by to attend his every need. ---
**Author:** ![Dacien](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dacien/32/5663_2.png) [@Dacien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dacien)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-eight-hours-too-long-to-go-without-being-offered-a-drink-of-water/826130/176 "2018-12-26T04:52:29Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Take your “both sides” shit and shove it up your ass. Yeah, both sides misrepresent stories and bend the truth. I mean, if you’re suggesting one side or the other is always 100% truthful all the time and never skews information, I don’t know what to tell you. Maybe that you’re living in the ultimate echo chamber. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-eight-hours-too-long-to-go-without-being-offered-a-drink-of-water/826130/177 "2018-12-26T04:58:12Z")
> [@Dacien](#): > > …if you’re suggesting one side or the other is always 100% truthful all the time and never skews information… I missed where anyone suggested anything of the sort. I’m sure you can point me to the posts where this is the case, though. ---
**Author:** ![Dacien](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dacien/32/5663_2.png) [@Dacien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dacien)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-eight-hours-too-long-to-go-without-being-offered-a-drink-of-water/826130/178 "2018-12-26T05:05:46Z")
> [@andros](#): > > I missed where anyone suggested anything of the sort. I’m sure you can point me to the posts where this is the case, though. I posted about how inaccuracies from the left are what I usually respond to, but pointed out that I’ll defend Obama and Khan from inaccurate claims from the right, and the response was to take my “both sides” crap and shove it. What am I supposed to take from that other than he thinks “both sides say inaccurate things” is a bogus claim? If that’s not his message then I don’t know what the heck he’s talking about. Either he responded to the wrong post or he’s simply pretending I wrote something else. Which may not be too far-fetched. Some people do seem to read into a post something that isn’t there, then get angry about it. ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-eight-hours-too-long-to-go-without-being-offered-a-drink-of-water/826130/179 "2018-12-26T06:10:10Z")
Does anyone know how these immigrants are processed when taken into US custody? I would think that each individual or family would be questioned about name, country of origin, reason for asylum etc (like Ellis Island). So I would think that some US official would have seen/processed this little girl & seen that she was in distress. But I may be wrong… ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-eight-hours-too-long-to-go-without-being-offered-a-drink-of-water/826130/180 "2018-12-26T12:37:24Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > And ,… > > Another child died in custody today, on Christmas. > > [An 8-year-old Guatemalan child dies in U.S. custody on Christmas Eve after being treated for a cold](https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-border-patrol-death-20181225-story.html) So, Central America is overpopulated and our current administration is addressing the issue? /s [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-eight-hours-too-long-to-go-without-being-offered-a-drink-of-water/826130.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-eight-hours-too-long-to-go-without-being-offered-a-drink-of-water/826130.md?page=10)