# Is Elizabeth Warren a viable presidential candidate? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 4, 2023, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-elizabeth-warren-a-viable-presidential-candidate/991090 "2023-10-04T08:17:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-elizabeth-warren-a-viable-presidential-candidate/991090/21 "2023-10-08T02:54:31Z")
I think you are very wrong. Some things stick. Some things don’t. It’s hard to say what will stick and what won’t. Warren is known to most Americans for one thing. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-elizabeth-warren-a-viable-presidential-candidate/991090/22 "2023-10-08T06:11:17Z")
I wish that were true but the events of the last seven years haven’t exactly made me feel more optimistic about politics in America. It’s important to remember that the goal of Republicans is not to convince Democrats to vote for them but to discourage them from turning out to the polls. They know that even if Trump goes on live TV to blow Putin and hand over a book of nuclear launch codes, his cult of MAGAs will still show up even if there’s an Ebola pandemic and 12-foot snowdrifts on Election Day. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-elizabeth-warren-a-viable-presidential-candidate/991090/23 "2023-10-08T07:24:57Z")
I was not being optimistic at all, in fact if you scroll up, I don’t think she’s a viable candidate. I just don’t think that “pocahontas” is going to be the main problem. She won her election to the senate after the Indian ancestry “scandal”. Persuadables didn’t care then and they definitely won’t care now. That’s not to say that if she were the Democrat nominee, that Republicans wouldn’t come with guns blazing. They’ll just make up lots of shit because this scandal isn’t juicy enough. But the reason that she’s not a viable candidate is that the MSM will come after her too. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-elizabeth-warren-a-viable-presidential-candidate/991090/24 "2023-10-08T07:25:12Z")
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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-elizabeth-warren-a-viable-presidential-candidate/991090/25 "2023-10-08T07:46:07Z")
BTW, how popular is Warren in Massachusetts? Is there any worry that she won’t hold on to her seat in 2024? ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-elizabeth-warren-a-viable-presidential-candidate/991090/26 "2023-10-08T08:46:51Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > I was not being optimistic at all, in fact if you scroll up, I don’t think she’s a viable candidate. > > I just don’t think that “pocahontas” is going to be the main problem. She won her election to the senate after the Indian ancestry “scandal”. Persuadables didn’t care then and they definitely won’t care now. > > That’s not to say that if she were the Democrat nominee, that Republicans wouldn’t come with guns blazing. They’ll just make up lots of shit because this scandal isn’t juicy enough. > > But the reason that she’s not a viable candidate is that the MSM will come after her too. Perhaps, but there are a lot more “non-persuadables” all over the country than there are in just her state. She’d have almost no support in the South, or in many pockets of the Midwest (I live in Kentucky, so I get to hear from these people all the time). I’m not saying whether she is or isn’t a viable candidate. But looking at her state’s demographics isn’t an effective yardstick for the rest of the nation. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-elizabeth-warren-a-viable-presidential-candidate/991090/27 "2023-10-08T16:54:41Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I think you are very wrong. Some things stick. Some things don’t. It’s hard to say what will stick and what won’t. Warren is known to most Americans for one thing. Although I _remember_ that Native American “controversy,” I don’t think it stuck. It’s about 1/100th of the Access Hollywood thing Trump survived. Her family’s oral history was wrong to some degree (I forget the details). Hardly a big deal. Several issues come to mind (and have been mentioned in this thread) that would be more important than being mistaken about her heritage. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-elizabeth-warren-a-viable-presidential-candidate/991090/28 "2023-10-08T17:57:49Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Although I _remember_ that Native American “controversy,” I don’t think it stuck. I think you’d be surprised. My 80 year old mother doesn’t pay a lick of attention to politics, only generally leans right on the political spectrum, hates Trump, and she knows exactly who is being referred to when people talk about “Pocahontas”. She certainly doesn’t know the specifics as to the origin, but she’d make a decent guess at it. It’s very much in the conservative zeitgeist. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-elizabeth-warren-a-viable-presidential-candidate/991090.md?page=1)