# Is Enterprise worth watching?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 6, 2012, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-enterprise-worth-watching/643189 "2012-12-06T15:41:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-enterprise-worth-watching/643189/1 "2012-12-06T15:41:07Z")

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I never gave it the time of day when it aired but I’ve caught a couple of episodes of late and they weren’t bad. Is it worth watching? Is it better/worse than ST: Voyager?

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-enterprise-worth-watching/643189/2 "2012-12-06T15:45:06Z")

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We recently watched the series through on Netflix and I found it much more appealing than most of the ST offerings. A very modern take on the basic format, including a good sense of story continuity, and many very amusing back-takes on ST:TOS and ST:TNG events. Scott Bakula is a thoroughly engaging actor as well.

It completely enraged most of the Trek\_\_\_ community because it rewrote canon in almost every episode. Being an original Trekkie who never much cared for TNG, I could care less about such theology and just enjoy the show for what it was.

Give it a whirl.

Oh, re STV: I tried to like it but it took the ‘encapsulated episode’ aspect of ST to the max. Some episodes had huge, life-changing, irreversible events… and managed to wrap things in the tag without a single change to the universe. Second or third one of those, and I was done with it.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Doom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Dr\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Doom)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-enterprise-worth-watching/643189/3 "2012-12-06T15:51:07Z")

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Dude.

Jolene Blalock in a skin-tight jumpsuit.

All you need to know.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-enterprise-worth-watching/643189/4 "2012-12-06T15:57:09Z")

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I liked it, although Bakula acted as though he had leapt into the body of a starship captain and didn’t have a clue what was going on. 🙂

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-enterprise-worth-watching/643189/5 "2012-12-06T16:03:18Z")

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Better than Voyager, though that’s damn faint praise.

Bakula is deadly dull as Archer, but the rest of the crew is interesting.

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**Author:** ![Hbns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hbns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hbns)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-enterprise-worth-watching/643189/6 "2012-12-06T16:03:42Z")

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I’ve tried watching all of the Trek series. I enjoy the original shows for what they were. I enjoyed a lot of the NG episodes. I didn’t much care for DS9 or Voyager, but watched some of both.

I started watching Enterprise because the setting for the story intrigued me, and because I had the opportunity to watch all the episode in sequence without dealing with network air dates. I think it was my favorite. At the end I thought the show was going in the right direction after a bit of a shaky start and was disappointed there will be no more episodes.

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**Author:** ![AndrewL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@AndrewL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AndrewL)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-enterprise-worth-watching/643189/7 "2012-12-06T16:04:46Z")

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First season was bad. Second was worse. Third and fourth were an improvement, but do yourself a favor and skip the final episode.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-enterprise-worth-watching/643189/8 "2012-12-06T16:41:41Z")

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I’d skip it. It gets a little better towards the end, but I doubt its worth your time to sit through the dreck to get to the slightly less drecky dreck.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-enterprise-worth-watching/643189/9 "2012-12-06T16:45:27Z")

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The last season certainly improved, but at times it seemed like fan fic to me.  
The Klingon forehead solution fellated with great alacrity.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-enterprise-worth-watching/643189/10 "2012-12-06T16:47:29Z")

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I couldn’t make it past the pilot episode. As soon as I learned about the temporal time war I decided the series wasn’t for me. I saw a few more episodes from season 1 but I never got hooked.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-enterprise-worth-watching/643189/11 "2012-12-06T16:57:29Z")

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The last season was the best. It took a while to find it’s footing and it’s unfortunate that UPN couldn’t have stuck with it just a little bit longer. But yeah, the finale was tacked on and it was awful.

On the whole, though, way better than Voyager.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-enterprise-worth-watching/643189/12 "2012-12-06T16:59:03Z")

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I like Enterprise! My opinion is in this [post=10882378]post[/post].

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-enterprise-worth-watching/643189/13 "2012-12-06T18:45:10Z")

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Skip it completely. A better use of your time would be poking forks in your eyeballs. Utter garbage.

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**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-enterprise-worth-watching/643189/14 "2012-12-06T19:23:18Z")

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I’d avoided it because of all the negativity from other ST fans, but I started catching a few episodes here and there when they were on whatever cable channel and liked them. Decided to watch the whole series and REALLY enjoyed it. It’s much, much better than Voyager.

Opinions are so varied. Looks like you’re going to have to commit several hours and decide for yourself. I envy you getting to see it for the first time.

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-enterprise-worth-watching/643189/15 "2012-12-06T19:33:07Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> I couldn’t make it past the pilot episode. As soon as I learned about the temporal time war I decided the series wasn’t for me. I saw a few more episodes from season 1 but I never got hooked.

FWIW the temporal cold war plotline spans maybe a dozen episodes over the entire series. However, it also brings us Vampire Space Nazis. I’m not kidding.

The fourth season of Enterprise was great. There is one episode with Trip and Hoshi (“Observer Effect”) which I think totally nails everything Star Trek is about. However, as previously mentioned skip the finale- it barely qualifies as an episode of Enterprise.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-enterprise-worth-watching/643189/16 "2012-12-06T19:34:53Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I liked it, although Bakula acted as though he had leapt into the body of a starship captain and didn’t have a clue what was going on. 🙂

Well… he was literally playing earth’s very first starship captain, so that makes a certain kind of sense.

Anyway, I don’t think the show was all that great. I do think they did a good job of answering a lot of backstory questions about various Star Trek lore, which was cool.

Overall, worth watching on Netflix since you’re already paying for the subscription.

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-enterprise-worth-watching/643189/17 "2012-12-06T19:39:30Z")

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If you like Trek, I’d recommend some episodes (more than I would for _Voyager_), but certainly not all of them.

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**Author:** ![Corcaigh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Corcaigh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corcaigh)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-enterprise-worth-watching/643189/18 "2012-12-06T19:45:52Z")

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I liked the show, agree with those who said don’t watch the final episode, not even out of curiosity to see what we’re moaning about

it implies that everything was just a holodeck program someone was watching - very Bobby Ewing in the shower stuff

I may not have needed to spoiler that, but it’s done now.

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-enterprise-worth-watching/643189/19 "2012-12-06T19:47:05Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> I’d skip it. It gets a little better towards the end, but I doubt its worth your time to sit through the dreck to get to the slightly less drecky dreck.

More than that, you’ll actually like it more with the bad parts subtracted (I think this is true of Trek overall, the ratios just vary).

> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> The last season certainly improved, but at times it seemed like fan fic to me.  
> The Klingon forehead solution fellated with great alacrity.

That was a serious tactical mistake IMO, to explain in-universe a facet of the TV production. Worf’s line in “Tribble-ations” was meant to be a joke at the time, and should have been left as such. The in-universe reality should have been that Klingons had always had ridged foreheads.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-enterprise-worth-watching/643189/20 "2012-12-06T20:00:54Z")

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It’s all Trek, it’s all good.

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