# Is Exile Still Used as a Form of Punishment? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [June 5, 2001, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-exile-still-used-as-a-form-of-punishment/67743 "2001-06-05T23:30:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2001, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-exile-still-used-as-a-form-of-punishment/67743/1 "2001-06-05T23:30:09Z")
No, not deportation, where an immigrant or alien (legal or otherwise) is made to leave. **Exile** , where a fully-privileged citizen of a nation is made to leave. I know that sometimes people go into self-imposed exile in order to avoid criminal prosecution (Roman Polanski) or persecution (Shah of Iran), or that some do it out of guilt over their actions (no one comes to mind, but you get the idea). But what I’m after here is a case in which a citizen, born & raised, of a developed nation has been made to leave the country as punishment for a crime. Does this still go on in developed nations? ---
**Author:** ![reprise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@reprise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reprise)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2001, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-exile-still-used-as-a-form-of-punishment/67743/2 "2001-06-05T23:37:19Z")
The Dalai Lama perhaps? ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2001, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-exile-still-used-as-a-form-of-punishment/67743/3 "2001-06-05T23:41:03Z")
The Soviet Union seems to have formally exiled people under some circumstances. [Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn](http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?eu=70417&tocid=0) “was arrested and charged with treason on Feb. 12, 1974” and was “exiled from the Soviet Union on the following day”. (The Soviets also used internal exile; Solzhenitsyn spent some time internally exiled in Kazakhstan, and [Andrey Sakharov](http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?eu=66687&tocid=0) was exiled to the Russian city of Gorky, now Nizhny Novgorod.) ---
**Author:** ![Sue\_Duhnym](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@Sue\_Duhnym](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sue_Duhnym)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2001, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-exile-still-used-as-a-form-of-punishment/67743/4 "2001-06-05T23:53:57Z")
I believe there are a few countries (Italy and Greece off the top of my head) that used to have , who abolished the monarchy and exiled the royals. ---
**Author:** ![Sue\_Duhnym](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@Sue\_Duhnym](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sue_Duhnym)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2001, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-exile-still-used-as-a-form-of-punishment/67743/5 "2001-06-06T00:38:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sue Duhnym \* > …that used to have , who… Der. …that used to have ROYALTY, who… [Bulgaria](http://www.rferl.org/nca/features/2001/04/11042001113944.asp) Exiled a long ass time ago. [iTALY](http://www.timesofindia.com/160700/16euro7.htm) Exiled in 1946, Crown Prince still not allowed to return. [Greece](http://www.dispatch.co.za/1998/05/25/foreign/GREECE.HTM) Looks like the king was formally exiled in 1993, though he lost power in 1974. Went into exile in 1967 has been living in London since. ---
**Author:** ![Kalt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Kalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalt)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2001, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-exile-still-used-as-a-form-of-punishment/67743/6 "2001-06-06T05:04:53Z")
i recall reading a case that says it is unconstitutional for the US gov’t to revoke a US Citizen’s status as citizen (and kick them out). They can, of course, deport you, but that means you are not a citizen in the first place, just an alien w/ a visa.