# Is Fox News really all that bad? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 104
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2061 "2018-07-25T05:08:56Z")
Col. Sanders? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2062 "2018-08-05T16:52:59Z")
This morning, the president of the United States admitted that his campaign colluded in the election with a foreign power. It’s on all the news sites. Lead story on Foxnews, however? Missing pretty white girl. In fact, the admission of a very impeachable offense by the president does not warrant any story at all on Foxnews. Must be a really heavy news day to not be one of the 100 or so stories on the front page. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2063 "2018-08-05T16:55:55Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Col. Sanders? Oh, great…as if those creepy Colonel impostor commercials weren’t reason enough for him to rest uneasily in his grave… ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2064 "2018-08-05T18:04:06Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > This morning, the president of the United States admitted that his campaign colluded in the election with a foreign power. It’s on all the news sites. Lead story on Foxnews, however? Missing pretty white girl. In fact, the admission of a very impeachable offense by the president does not warrant any story at all on Foxnews. Must be a really heavy news day to not be one of the 100 or so stories on the front page. Just wait till some sophomore at Oberlin is caught on tape saying something stupid. Fox will be all over that shit. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2065 "2018-08-05T20:38:11Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Oh, great…as if those creepy Colonel impostor commercials weren’t reason enough for him to rest uneasily in his grave… Indeed. I remember the Colonel when he was alive – as well as the state funeral given him in Kentucky – and he always seemed like a kindly old man. He must be spinning in his grave now. ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2066 "2018-08-05T21:33:42Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Well, blind loyalty and Daddy’s name and reputation. But not, I bet, fanatical loyalty to the pope. ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2067 "2018-08-06T15:13:48Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > In fact, the admission of a very impeachable offense by the president does not warrant any story at all on Foxnews. Is it definitely impeachable? I’d say that it would be a severe offense for his team to try to work with the Russians if what they were hoping to get is info that was obtained by breaking laws, such as we now know happened. But what if Junior thought he would be getting data on corruption involving Hillary and the Russians? Something like “we have evidence that Hillary was laundering money through her charitable foundation.” The appropriate response would be to involve the FBI at that point, but would his eagerness to get that data himself be something that would be a crime, or impeachment of Trump if his dad knew about it? Someone posted recently about Trump, at a campaign rally, mentioning that they would be coming out with dirt on Hillary, just hours after Junior set up the meeting with the Russians. Can someone find that for me? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2068 "2018-08-06T15:24:37Z")
> [@CurtC](#): > > Is it definitely impeachable? … would his eagerness to get that data himself be something that would be a crime, or impeachment of Trump if his dad knew about it? I think we’ve just discovered the Republican equivalent – if this argument is ever made by a Republican – of “it depends on what the definition of ‘is’ is”. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2069 "2018-08-06T16:10:31Z")
> [@CurtC](#): > > Someone posted recently about Trump, at a campaign rally, mentioning that they would be coming out with dirt on Hillary, just hours after Junior set up the meeting with the Russians. Can someone find that for me? As per [NPR](https://www.npr.org/2017/10/31/537926933/2016-under-scrutiny-a-timeline-of-russia-connections), on June 7th, 2016: > [@](#): > > The 2016 primary season essentially concludes with Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton as their parties’ presumptive nominees. At his primary night victory speech, Trump previews an upcoming attack in the form of a “major speech” he says he’s planning to give in the next few days. > > “I am going to give a major speech on, probably Monday of next week, and we are going to be discussing all of the things that have taken place with the Clintons,” Trump said. “I think you are going to find it very informative and very, very interesting.” > > Just hours before, Rob Goldstone had finalized plans for the meeting between Trump Jr., Natalia Veselnitskaya and others. June 7th was a Tuesday; the meeting would occur on Thursday, June 9th. Also, on the afternoon of June 9th (i.e., just after the meeting), Trump tweeted about Clinton’s emails for the first time: > [@Donald Trump](#): > > How long did it take your staff of 823 people to think that up–and where are your 33,000 emails that you deleted? Note that “think that up” was apparently in reply to a tweet that morning by Clinton, in response to a Trump tweet: > [@Hillary Clinton](#): > > Delete your account. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2070 "2018-08-08T11:45:32Z")
I shouldn’t comment; almost the only Fox I see is when Stephen Colbert or some other sane source plays an excerpt. But just now I mis-clicked at YouTube and ended up watching the first two minutes of this Fox clip: [Tucker Carlson thinks he’s ‘Gotcha’ed’ a Democratic Congressman.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En8sAYHrKEU) Does it often get this inane? Alex Jones was taken down, why is FoxNews still up? ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2071 "2018-08-08T12:39:22Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Also, on the afternoon of June 9th (i.e., just after the meeting), Trump tweeted about Clinton’s emails for the first time: > > Note that “think that up” was apparently in reply to a tweet that morning by Clinton, in response to a Trump tweet: The 823 figure in that tweet was [interesting too](https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/01/25/why-did-trump-tweet-an-in-the-ball-park-accurate-number-for-hillarys-total-staffers-on-june-9-2016/). ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2072 "2018-08-08T14:34:09Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > I shouldn’t comment; almost the only Fox I see is when Stephen Colbert or some other sane source plays an excerpt. But just now I mis-clicked at YouTube and ended up watching the first two minutes of this Fox clip: [Tucker Carlson thinks he’s ‘Gotcha’ed’ a Democratic Congressman.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En8sAYHrKEU) > > Does it often get this inane? Alex Jones was taken down, why is FoxNews still up? Tucker Carlson’s main schtick is “gotcha-journalism”. And, he fails miserably often as he did there (as they used to say, Tucker got pwned). He would be the laughingstock of any other news outlet but he and his dipshit buddy, Hannity, are seen as the real heroes on Fox. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2073 "2018-08-08T14:38:20Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > I shouldn’t comment; almost the only Fox I see is when Stephen Colbert or some other sane source plays an excerpt. But just now I mis-clicked at YouTube and ended up watching the first two minutes of this Fox clip: [Tucker Carlson thinks he’s ‘Gotcha’ed’ a Democratic Congressman.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En8sAYHrKEU) > > Does it often get this inane? Alex Jones was taken down, why is FoxNews still up? I am being 100% serious when I say that was a very good interview by Tucker’s standards. Normally his “interviews” are entirely blantant ad hominems and leading questions. But in that interview, the congressman was ready for him and was able to call him on his bull. However, as you have seen, videos where Carlson or Hannity get thumped with the great hammer of logic, still get shared on youTube as, say, “Tucker OWNS libtard cuck!”, with comments to match. Guess their fans don’t really listen to the content, they just enjoy the theater. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2074 "2018-08-09T04:50:20Z")
Fog-horn racism at Fox. [Laura Ingraham](https://twitter.com/AlexKoppelman/status/1027384961639297024): [INDENT]“The America we know and love doesn’t exist anymore. Massive demographic changes have been foisted on the American people, and they are changes that none of us ever voted for, and most of us don’t like … this is related to both illegal and legal immigration” Ingraham later in the same show: Is black on black crime a bigger problem than the racism that you claim exists in the criminal justice system? [/INDENT] Um, we don’t live in a direct democracy Laura. And immigration -both legal and illegal- is very much a result of policies voted in Washington. You see while your GOP friends like to discuss border walls for the benefit of the rubes, effective measures like cracking down on employers who hire undocumented immigrants run into a phalanx of lobbyists. It’s been this way at least since the 1970s. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2075 "2018-08-09T08:49:43Z")
“Foisted”. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2076 "2018-08-09T09:10:03Z")
Vanilla ice cream abhors a melting pot. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2077 "2018-08-11T08:10:18Z")
> [@Sicks\_Ate](#): > > Hannity —\> Trump —\> Putin —\> > > It’s like a Human Centipede. Only without the humans. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2078 "2018-08-21T21:07:14Z")
Manafort is found guilty. Cohen pleads guilty and says he paid off Stormy Daniels at the direction of Trump and was reimbursed by Trump, in order to hide Trump’s affair. Big news day. Fox cut away for a press conference on missing university student Mollie Tibbetts. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2079 "2018-08-22T22:19:03Z")
Fox - “MSNBC, CNN ignore bombshell development in Mollie Tibbetts case on day of bad news for Trump” I shit you not [http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/08/22/msnbc-cnn-ignore-bombshell-development-in-mollie-tibbetts-case-on-day-bad-news-for-trump.html?utm\_source=feedburner&utm\_medium=feed&utm\_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fentertainment+(Internal+-+Entertainment+-+Mixed)](http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/08/22/msnbc-cnn-ignore-bombshell-development-in-mollie-tibbetts-case-on-day-bad-news-for-trump.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fentertainment+%28Internal+-+Entertainment+-+Mixed%29) ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2080 "2018-08-22T22:26:02Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > Fox - “MSNBC, CNN ignore bombshell development in Mollie Tibbetts case on day of bad news for Trump” > > I shit you not > [MSNBC, CNN ignore bombshell development in Mollie Tibbetts case on day of bad news for Trump | Fox News](http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/08/22/msnbc-cnn-ignore-bombshell-development-in-mollie-tibbetts-case-on-day-bad-news-for-trump.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fentertainment+%28Internal+-+Entertainment+-+Mixed%29) I didn’t believe it. I really didn’t. I’m as sorry the young woman was killed as anyone, but unfortunately, there are lots of people murdered every day. I don’t think it requires wall-to-wall coverage, and certainly not up there with the President’s personal lawyer saying the President directed him to commit a crime, or the Presidents former campaign manager getting convicted of a bunch of felonies. To say this was just a “bad news day” for Trump is like saying April 12, 1912 was a bad day for HMS Titanic. Trump has had about 500 “bad news days.” This one was a big worse. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=103) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=105)