# Is Fox News really all that bad? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 105
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2081 "2018-08-22T23:12:41Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > …To say this was just a “bad news day” for Trump is like saying April 12, 1912 was a bad day for HMS Titanic… I mean, _on balance_ maybe…but you never hear how good the Baked Alaska was that night. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2082 "2018-08-22T23:32:59Z")
To add to their stellar reporting, the immigrant in question is in the country legally, not illegally. Facts, schmacts. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2083 "2018-08-23T01:03:10Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Trump has had about 500 “bad news days.” This one was a big worse. To be fair, he has only been in office for 580 days, so he has only had around 650 bad news days – assuming he even recognized one as such. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2084 "2018-08-23T01:16:36Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > To say this was just a “bad news day” for Trump is like saying April 12, 1912 was a bad day for HMS Titanic. The HMS \*Titanic \*had smooth sailing that day, as far as I know. The RMS _Titanic_, however… ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2085 "2018-08-23T18:47:49Z")
[Here’s a clip](https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tucker-carlson-cuts-off-immigration-analysts-mic-after-getting-bested-in-debate/) that’ll give you a feel for how terribly Tucker Carlson sucks these days. Carlson had an immigration expert on his Fox show last night. He’ll ask a question, then as the guy tries to answer, Carlson will talk over him, and in the process of doing it, ask a whole new question before the guy ever gets a chance to ask the first one, and lather, rinse, repeat through a few cycles of this, finally just cutting off the guy’s mike. All this over the great Fox News chyron, “Liberal Media Hardly Report On Tibbetts Murder.” (This was just a day after Manafort’s convictions and Michael Cohen’s guilty pleas, but apparently Fox News felt that the ‘liberal media’ should have dropped all that to cover one murder in Iowa, in a nation where we have roughly 50 murders per day.) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2086 "2018-08-23T20:26:07Z")
Tucker Tucker Bat Fucker has Hannity “The Big Giant Head” in his sights. Tucker gets $4 million. Hannity, $36 million. So, how do you out-Hannity Hannity? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2087 "2018-08-23T20:42:43Z")
I myself cannot, for I have only one head, and only one ass up which to jam it. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2088 "2018-08-23T20:51:24Z")
I only regret that I have but one head to jam up my ass for my country. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2089 "2018-08-23T21:03:46Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > {…} I have only one head, and only one ass up which to jam it. A title Ellison rejected for “The Last Dangerous Visions”. 😉 😃 CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2090 "2018-08-23T21:16:33Z")
_The Monster Who Shoved His Head Up The Ass of the World._ Same volume with the only Vonnegut story conservatives ever read. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2091 "2018-08-23T21:45:54Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > To add to their stellar reporting, the immigrant in question is in the country legally, not illegally. Facts, schmacts. This information has been reversed, so I withdraw my comment. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2092 "2018-08-23T22:40:43Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > [Here’s a clip](https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tucker-carlson-cuts-off-immigration-analysts-mic-after-getting-bested-in-debate/) that’ll give you a feel for how terribly Tucker Carlson sucks these days. THESE days? I’d like to request evidence that Fucker was ever any better. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2093 "2018-08-24T03:40:24Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Tucker Tucker Bat Fucker has Hannity “The Big Giant Head” in his sights. Tucker gets $4 million. Hannity, $36 million. So, how do you out-Hannity Hannity? That’s right folks: we live in a world where Hannity gets $36 million a year for making a show that **un** -educates its viewers. You’re far more ignorant about the world after watching Hannity than before. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAlecCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SmartAlecCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAlecCat)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2094 "2018-08-24T11:45:47Z")
[Second Fox News reporter leaves amid objections to network](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/23/fox-news-reporters-opinion-network-adam-housley-795278) > [@](#): > > Another on-air reporter is leaving Fox News over frustrations with the direction and tone of the network, the second in the last three weeks to defect for those reasons. > > Adam Housley, a Los Angeles-based reporter who joined Fox in 2001, felt there was diminished opportunity at the network for reporters and disapproved of tenor of its on-air discussion, according to two former Fox News employees with knowledge of his situation. > […] > “Conor was growing increasingly embarrassed by the channel, by the positions, by the relentless blind defense of Trump,” the friend said. “If you’re overseas and doing important work like Conor was, you can certainly focus on the work and tell yourself, ‘Hey I’m doing important things and I’m just going to focus on this and ignore all the rest.’ But it just became impossible to ignore.” ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2095 "2018-08-24T12:40:18Z")
Must be a slow news day. The lead article on [foxnews.com](http://foxnews.com) is about how much the Ocasio-Cortez campaign has spent on Uber rides. LOL ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2096 "2018-08-24T15:19:10Z")
> [@SmartAlecCat](#): > > [Second Fox News reporter leaves amid objections to network](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/23/fox-news-reporters-opinion-network-adam-housley-795278) Two down, only a limitless supply to go! ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2097 "2018-08-24T23:07:42Z")
[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlZgDzRUcAItS0z.jpg](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlZgDzRUcAItS0z.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2098 "2018-08-25T02:43:52Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlZgDzRUcAItS0z.jpg](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlZgDzRUcAItS0z.jpg) If that is real, that is fucking crazy. I was reading [this noise](http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/24/two-extremist-muslim-new-mexico-compound-suspects-hit-with-new-charges-authorities-say.html) and trying to figure out what it was supposed to be. Note that their story copy never contains external links. I mean, they are the good guys, right? Why would they have links to other, “less reputable” sources? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2099 "2018-08-25T11:05:26Z")
Homer Simpson to his lawyer: “Play the race card!!” Lawyer looks sad to him like if thinking: ‘but you are not…’ Homer then says to him in a menacing tone: “Play it…” Of course, as I noted before, it was a terrible mistake to give the biggest bully pulpit to a swallower of conspiracy theories and a racist like Trump. And Fox news and others are happy to help fan the flames. > **[Trump tweets incorrect on S.A. land seizures, farmers](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/aug/24/donald-trump/trump-tweets-incorrect-south-african-land-seizures/)** > > Fox News host Tucker Carlson and President Donald Trump are among a group of U.S. conservatives raising alarm bells abou > [@](#): > > Trump tweets incorrect on South African land seizures, farmer killings > > Fox News host Tucker Carlson and President Donald Trump are among a group of U.S. conservatives raising alarm bells about something happening half a world away in South Africa. > > “The president of South Africa, Cyril Ramaphosa, has begun … seizing land from his own citizens without compensation because they are the wrong skin color,” Tucker began his show Aug. 22. “That is literally the definition of racism.” > > Trump chimed in soon thereafter on Twitter, tagging accounts for both Carlson and Fox News and going even further to decry murders of farmers. Trump said that he had asked Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to investigate "the South Africa land and farm seizures and expropriations and the large scale killing of farmers.“a, Cyril Ramaphosa, has begun … seizing land from his own citizens without compensation because they are the wrong skin color,” Tucker began his show Aug. 22. “That is literally the definition of racism.” > > Trump chimed in soon thereafter on Twitter, tagging accounts for both Carlson and Fox News and going even further to decry murders of farmers. Trump said that he had asked Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to investigate “the South Africa land and farm seizures and expropriations and the large scale killing of farmers.” > > … > Our ruling > > Trump tweeted that the “South African government is seizing land from white farmers” and that there has been a “large scale killing of farmers” in the country. > > The government of South Africa is pursuing reparations more aggressively. When black communities file a claim for stolen land, the government has been offering fair market value to encourage white owners to sell. Now, the government is considering taking land without compensating current owners. > > Only land which had been unfairly taken from black communities through discriminatory laws is considered for redistribution. > > What’s more wrong in Trump’s observation is that South African farmers are not being killed systematically due to their race or profession. There is not enough data to say whether the rate of farmer deaths has increased significantly, and nothing tying that directly to government reparations initiatives. > > We rate this statement Mostly False. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2100 "2018-08-25T14:44:07Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > THESE days? I’d like to request evidence that Fucker was ever any better. Never said he was. Just that ‘these days’ is all I’m providing evidence about. Can’t speak to the Tuckers of yesteryear. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=104) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=106)