# Is Fox News really all that bad? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 106
**Author:** ![SmartAlecCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SmartAlecCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAlecCat)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2101 "2018-08-28T12:32:49Z")
[Fox News Hasn’t Always Shared Robert Driscoll’s Credentials With Its Viewers](https://www.npr.org/2018/08/27/642356784/fox-news-hasnt-always-shared-robert-driscoll-s-credentials-with-its-viewers) > [@](#): > > Fox News has repeatedly gone to former Justice Department official Robert Driscoll to comment on the Russia investigations, but what viewers don’t hear is that he’s also the attorney for Maria Butina, the suspected Russian spy charged with criminal counts. > […] > He’s no longer an independent observer, but someone with a vested interest in the larger story of Russian engagement with the U.S. election process. And therefore, a news organization owes it to its readers and viewers to identify specifically what role he’s playing in the larger story. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2102 "2018-08-28T17:38:48Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > If that is real, that is fucking crazy. > > I was reading [this noise](http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/24/two-extremist-muslim-new-mexico-compound-suspects-hit-with-new-charges-authorities-say.html) and trying to figure out what it was supposed to be. Note that their story copy never contains external links. I mean, they are the good guys, right? Why would they have links to other, “less reputable” sources? [Here](https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/15/us/new-mexico-child-abuse-suspects-bail-law/index.html) is a report from the Sad, Lying, Low ratings, Loser, Fake News, Enemy of the people. Basically they are probably guilty of child abuse, NM prosecutors argued that if released they were likely to commit terrorist acts, but didn’t provide much in the way of evidence. So the judge followed the law and let them out on monitored bail, causing a bunch of Fox fanatics to lose their shit and threaten the judge with death. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2103 "2018-08-29T16:35:42Z")
NPR Headline: Trump Claims Without Evidence That China Hacked Clinton Email Server Faux Headline: Chinese company reportedly hacked Clinton’s server, got copy of every email in real-time ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2104 "2018-08-29T17:29:56Z")
So, after 2103 posts, is it possible yet to conclude yes? They are awful and getting worse. Hannity supporting Q Anon is the pinnacle of irresponsibility and lack of integrity for me. That’s at Alex Jones level of bad. There’s simply no redemption possible for a network that would allow him to continue with his lies and propaganda. Let alone Tucker, Laura whatever her name is, and so on. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2105 "2018-08-31T20:41:20Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > So, after 2103 posts, is it possible yet to conclude yes? They are awful and getting worse. Hannity supporting Q Anon is the pinnacle of irresponsibility and lack of integrity for me. That’s at Alex Jones level of bad. There’s simply no redemption possible for a network that would allow him to continue with his lies and propaganda. Let alone Tucker, Laura whatever her name is, and so on. addressed at least once before [quote=““eschereal, 4-27-2018 @ 5:38pm”, post:1948, topic:636625”] Have we reached a verdict? [/QUOTE] [quote=““jsc1953, an hour and 14 minutes later”, post:1949, topic:636625”] Yes: they really are that bad. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2018, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2106 "2018-09-01T03:31:38Z")
You have to bear in mind it’s a 6 year old thread. The OP is almost reasonable in 2012\*, but now, with where FOX has been going since the birther thing and then the actual Trump presidency…if you don’t know how bad FOX is, you either haven’t seen it, or you hold terrible and ignorant views yourself. _Every day_ they lie or misrepresent facts to try to foment hatred, bigotry and ignorance. - Some of the early comments are adorable. “…it’s not hard to find examples of Fox News giving stories a conservative slant” Dja think?! ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2018, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2107 "2018-09-01T04:00:43Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > NPR Headline: > Trump Claims Without Evidence That China Hacked Clinton Email Server > > Faux Headline: > > Chinese company reportedly hacked Clinton’s server, got copy of every email in real-time People are saying it. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2018, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2108 "2018-09-01T11:23:54Z")
Fox News trashes black man doing an honest day’s work because he used to be an actor on The Cosby Show 30 years ago. > [@](#): > > “It was a shock to see him working there and looking the way he did. It made me feel really bad. I was like, 'Wow, all those years of doing the show and you ended up as a cashier,” Lawrence said of seeing Owens at the Trader Joe’s store. “Other fans would be surprised for sure as well.” [http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/08/31/cosby-show-actor-geoffrey-owens-spotted-bagging-groceries-at-nj-trader-joes.amp.html?\_\_twitter\_impression=true](http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/08/31/cosby-show-actor-geoffrey-owens-spotted-bagging-groceries-at-nj-trader-joes.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true) ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2018, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2109 "2018-09-01T11:50:13Z")
Yes, Fox News is that bad, as are other conservative outlets that deliberately distort the truth to fit a particular worldview. Kellyanne Conway uttered the infamous phrase “alternative facts,” but Fox News has been the alternative truth for millions of Americans who tune in to hear someone confirm their own biases. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2110 "2018-09-01T16:34:30Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Yes, Fox News is that bad, as are other conservative outlets … Knock that shit off. ABC is conservative, Newscorp is not – they are some other thing, like demented reactionaries. ---
**Author:** ![shinnen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@shinnen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shinnen)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2018, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2111 "2018-09-01T16:45:19Z")
I’d like to check out Fox news to see what it’s like, but don’t know where to find it. I live north of Toronto. Does anyone know what channel it’s on? Thanks, … john ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2018, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2112 "2018-09-01T17:59:39Z")
> [@shinnen](#): > > I’d like to check out Fox news to see what it’s like, but don’t know where to find it. > I live north of Toronto. Does anyone know what channel it’s on? > Thanks, > … john You are as lucky as [Domino is in the latest Dead Pool movie](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgKjin2HnL4)… (One bit of NSFW language in that clip) ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2113 "2018-09-07T16:50:21Z")
> [@shinnen](#): > > I’d like to check out Fox news to see what it’s like, but don’t know where to find it. > I live north of Toronto. Does anyone know what channel it’s on? > Thanks, > … john This may be a wooosh, but in case it isn’t: Fox News is its own cable channel. I’m not sure whether its available in Toronto. To get a feel for it however you can check out their [website.](http://www.foxnews.com/) ---
**Author:** ![shinnen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@shinnen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shinnen)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2018, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2114 "2018-09-07T22:37:21Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > This may be a wooosh, but in case it isn’t: > > Fox News is its own cable channel. I’m not sure whether its available in Toronto. To get a feel for it however you can check out their [website.](http://www.foxnews.com/) Thanks Buck. … john ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2115 "2018-09-08T00:06:49Z")
How they keep a straight face when they say these things is beyond me. > [@](#): > > In a segment on free trade, the conservative host, who has interviewed President Donald Trump on numerous occasions, called President Barack Obama a “radical left-winger,” and said that Republican President George W. Bush was “a radical… What would you call him? A liberal himself. He wasn’t a conservative.” > > SOURCE: [Fox Business Host Calls Former President George W. Bush a 'Radical' Liberal](https://www.newsweek.com/fox-lou-dobbs-george-bush-liberal-1111686) ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2116 "2018-09-11T13:04:13Z")
Fox just had a man and woman (I think his daughter) read off a list of the names of people killed on 9/11. That’s fine. However, at the end, the man went on to use the dead as a reason to slam Democrats. Fucking using the defining moment of terrorism as a political prop. Unreal. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2117 "2018-09-11T13:17:43Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Fox just had a man and woman (I think his daughter) read off a list of the names of people killed on 9/11. That’s fine. > > However, at the end, the man went on to use the dead as a reason to slam Democrats. Fucking using the defining moment of terrorism as a political prop. Unreal. 9/11 has turned into the Republican National Holiday. Attacked in a manner that GWB was warned about but ignored, used as an excuse to invade Iraq, and trotted out every year to remind us how Republicans hate Muslims. Pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2118 "2018-09-11T14:22:04Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > 9/11 has turned into the Republican National Holiday. Attacked in a manner that GWB was warned about but ignored, used as an excuse to invade Iraq, and trotted out every year to remind us how Republicans hate Muslims. Pathetic. Yeah, but we immediately caught the guy responsible and quickly subjugated the entire country where the Taliban was based. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2119 "2018-09-11T15:19:24Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Yeah, but we immediately caught the guy responsible and quickly subjugated the entire country where the Taliban was based. That’s a pretty broad definition of “immediately”. And Afghanistan is every bit as ungovernable and unsafe as it was 17 years ago and will be 17 years from now. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2120 "2018-09-11T15:22:43Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > That’s a pretty broad definition of “immediately”. And Afghanistan is every bit as ungovernable and unsafe as it was 17 years ago and will be 17 years from now. 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=105) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=107)