# Is Fox News really all that bad?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2142 "2018-09-27T15:36:30Z")

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> [@tullsterx](#):
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> I’m not familiar with the history of this story, but Fox News showed a clip of the UN laughing at Trump’s success claims last night.

Please see my post a couple up: Laughing WITH Trump.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2143 "2018-09-29T10:36:02Z")

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The top Fox hit on my Google News feed is:

_ **Kavanaugh showed his daughters what it means to fight for what’s right – even when it’s hard** _

“We report; you decide.” Got it.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2144 "2018-09-29T11:53:41Z")

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I watched just a few minutes of Fox this morning because that’s all I can handle. They are at a State Fair in Texas enjoying fried oreos. Blech, those things are nasty.

The two on site reporters had their cowboy hats on backwards, apparently. Also, Bill Maher mocked McCain or something according to the LARGE banner at the bottom of the screen.

Off to google Bill Maher.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2145 "2018-09-29T15:09:57Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> … Bill Maher mocked McCain or something …

Bill Maher said “_Linsey Graham needs the stabilizing influence of his dead boyfriend_”.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2146 "2018-10-01T02:34:27Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> The top Fox hit on my Google News feed is:
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> _ **Kavanaugh showed his daughters what it means to fight for what’s right – even when it’s hard** _
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> “We report; you decide.” Got it.

Isn’t fighting when it was hard what got him in trouble in the first place?

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**Author:** ![bmasters1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b5e925/32.png) [@bmasters1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bmasters1)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2147 "2018-10-10T19:32:53Z")

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This probably could also go under the irritating business names thread as well, but just the name–Fox “News”-- irritates me no end. Why?! Because they report very little actual news, while acting like their opinionated hate-the-left/justify-the-right/defend-Trump opinion shows are the same as actual news reporting.

How do they do that? Simple: they refuse to have an “Opinion” header on their opinion shows, therein leading the unwary viewer who doesn’t know better to think that news is being reported 24 hours a day, even on the opinion and talk shows (the latter being _Fox and Friends_, _Outnumbered_, _Cavuto_, _The Five_, _The Ingraham Angle_, _Hannity_, and in the past, _The O’Reilly Factor_).

Simply put: if Fox “News” is showing an opinion show, they need to say so, and not expect people to believe that talking heads represent news coverage!

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2148 "2018-10-10T21:01:56Z")

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> <https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1049915432898052096>

Is this satire? Can we _please_ pretend this is satire so that I can sleep tonight?

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2149 "2018-10-10T21:45:56Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> [https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1049915432898052096](https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1049915432898052096)
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> Is this satire? Can we _please_ pretend this is satire so that I can sleep tonight?

The replies to that are awesome.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2150 "2018-10-11T14:32:26Z")

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“Fox News still called Fox News despite not being anchored by foxes”

LOL

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2151 "2018-10-11T15:24:43Z")

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> [@Finn Sheerin on Twitter](#):
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> In Home Alone 2 Donald Trump helps a child separated from his parents, but in real life…
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> They could look into this too.

🙂

And then :mad: at Trump still.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2152 "2018-10-23T19:12:46Z")

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Fox runs a story of a murderer who was a registered sex offender and illustrates the story with a photo of Senator Kamala Harris with a little boy.

> <https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1054799297491873793>

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2153 "2018-10-23T19:22:25Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> On the other hand, I’d love to have footage of Avenatti pulling a Jon Stewart on Fucker Carlson. It would make my year.

I’d prefer to see him pull a Mike Tyson on Carlson.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2154 "2018-10-23T19:30:48Z")

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Yes.

Can we move this to General Questions…then close it?

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2155 "2018-10-24T00:26:22Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Fox runs a story of a murderer who was a registered sex offender and illustrates the story with a photo of Senator Kamala Harris with a little boy.  
> [https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1054799297491873793](https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1054799297491873793)

What the fuck was that about? Fox is either going full-out racist or they are just incompetent nitwits. Looking at Carlson and Hannity, it’s most likely both of those descriptors.

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2156 "2018-10-24T02:25:32Z")

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they are both full-out racists and incompetent nitwits :mad:

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2157 "2018-10-24T03:49:20Z")

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I check in on them, ever once in a while, when I feel maybe my blood pressure is a bit low. Seems to me like Tucker Tucker Bug Fucker is putting some pressure on the Big Giant Head. He rolls around in his Star Wars onesie dreaming of Trump calling him on the phone.

People are saying the bitterness is born of love gone wrong. Really, nobody knows how these internet rumors get started.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2158 "2018-11-01T12:22:05Z")

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Fox & Friends defend Trump calling the media the enemy of the people:

> [@](#):
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> “He’s saying if you don’t want to be called the enemy, then get the story right, be accurate and report the story the way I want it reported."

> **[Fox & Friends Defends Trump's 'Enemy' Attacks on Media](https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-friends-defends-trump-media-attacks-hes-simply-asking-report-it-the-way-i-want-it-reported/amp/?__twitter_impression=true)**
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> Fox & Friends offered some light criticism this week of President Donald Trump's use of "enemy of the people" to describe the media.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2159 "2018-11-01T13:12:37Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Fox & Friends defend Trump calling the media the enemy of the people:  
> [https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-friends-defends-trump-media-attacks-hes-simply-asking-report-it-the-way-i-want-it-reported/amp/?\_\_twitter\_impression=true](https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-friends-defends-trump-media-attacks-hes-simply-asking-report-it-the-way-i-want-it-reported/amp/?__twitter_impression=true)

He is just so misunderstood. Bigly. Sad.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2160 "2018-11-01T13:34:36Z")

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Foxnews stoked fears that immigrants are bringing (not might be bringing) [smallpox](https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-commentator-says-migrants-are-carrying-smallpox-a-disease-eradicated-in-1980) into the country. Smallpox. A disease that hasn’t had a single case worldwide in 40 years.  
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“We have these individuals coming in from all over the world that have some of the most extreme medical care in the world,” Ward said. “And they’re coming in with diseases such as smallpox and leprosy and TB [tuberculosis] that are going to infect our people in the United States.”\*

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2161 "2018-11-01T14:27:36Z")

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“Infect our people”. Lovely. I believe the term he’s looking for is _Lebensunwertes Leben_.

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