# Is Fox News really all that bad?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2283 "2019-02-05T16:36:45Z")

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OMG! Fox is aghast that their own polls show that a majority of Americans are in favor of taxing the wealthy. And it’s all because fairness is being promoted in our schools!

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> Fox, apoplectic over its own polling showing wide public support for @AOC and @ewarren’s wealth tax proposals, literally blames the fact that schools teach kids to be fair:
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> “The idea of fairness has been promoted in our schools for a long time.”

You really should watch the embedded video:

[https://twitter.com/stevemorris\_\_/status/1092807628147879939](https://twitter.com/stevemorris__/status/1092807628147879939)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2284 "2019-02-05T18:27:49Z")

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Yes! The early indoctrination was carried out under the guidance of Comrade Big Bird, who received the Order of Lennon for his work! I remember well, hearing how the running dog jackals of the ruling class got all bent out of shape with all this “sharing is good!” dogma! Polluting the minds of our consumers in training! We gloat!

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2285 "2019-02-05T19:32:12Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> OMG! Fox is aghast that their own polls show that a majority of Americans are in favor of taxing the wealthy. And it’s all because fairness is being promoted in our schools!
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> You really should watch the embedded video:
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> [https://twitter.com/stevemorris\_\_/status/1092807628147879939](https://twitter.com/stevemorris__/status/1092807628147879939)

I think Fox News is gonna have to run with this now and just be blatant about who they are attempting to influence. I look forward to future Fox news banners and stories that will surely include gems like

\*\*The Terror of Equal Treatment

Does America Really Need a Department of _Justice_?\*\*

and, of course,

**What’s Wrong With Winning? Why the Left Hates You and America**

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2286 "2019-02-06T03:14:27Z")

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Let’s face it though: sentiments like that are popular in American culture; you’re just not supposed to phrase them that way.

Plenty of people here on the Dope that argue against safety nets: there _has to be_ losers.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2287 "2019-02-06T04:46:43Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I think Fox News is gonna have to run with this now and just be blatant about who they are attempting to influence. I look forward to future Fox news banners and stories that will surely include gems like
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> \*\*The Terror of Equal Treatment
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> Does America Really Need a Department of _Justice_?\*\*
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> and, of course,
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> **What’s Wrong With Winning? Why the Left Hates You and America**

They’ll probably also want to change their tagline from “Fair & Balanced” to “Fairness is Intolerable”

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2288 "2019-02-06T13:41:42Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> They’ll probably also want to change their tagline from “Fair & Balanced” to “Fairness is Intolerable”

The “fair” in Fair and Balanced is a reference to skin tone.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2289 "2019-02-10T22:13:55Z")

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Fox News host Pete Hegseth explained on Sunday that he doesn’t wash his hands because “germs are not a real thing.”  
[Fox & Friends Host Says 'Germs Are Not A Real Thing': 'I Don't Think I've Washed My Hands For 10 Years' | Crooks and Liars](https://crooksandliars.com/2019/02/fox-friends-host-says-germs-are-not-real)?

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2290 "2019-02-11T01:57:01Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Fox News host Pete Hegseth explained on Sunday that he doesn’t wash his hands because “germs are not a real thing.”  
> [Fox & Friends Host Says 'Germs Are Not A Real Thing': 'I Don't Think I've Washed My Hands For 10 Years' | Crooks and Liars](https://crooksandliars.com/2019/02/fox-friends-host-says-germs-are-not-real)?

Like climate change, the germ theory of disease is a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese and Al Gore. Or maybe Big Pharma. Or the Jews. One of those, probably.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2291 "2019-02-11T02:59:11Z")

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I cannot see oxygen, so I decided to stop breathing.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2292 "2019-02-11T03:32:50Z")

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It shows just how terrible FOX news and its presenters are that I cannot tell if he was joking.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2293 "2019-02-11T03:43:51Z")

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I wonder what his thoughts are on God, if he doesn’t believe in things he can’t see.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2294 "2019-02-11T04:42:10Z")

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God doesn’t believe he exists, either. A metaphysical standoff. DesCartes’ cat.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2295 "2019-02-11T17:01:42Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Fox News host Pete Hegseth explained on Sunday that he doesn’t wash his hands because “germs are not a real thing.”  
> [Fox & Friends Host Says 'Germs Are Not A Real Thing': 'I Don't Think I've Washed My Hands For 10 Years' | Crooks and Liars](https://crooksandliars.com/2019/02/fox-friends-host-says-germs-are-not-real)?

I was just about to start a Pit thread about this. Just ew. I suppose he has someone else to wipe his arse.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2296 "2019-02-11T17:17:40Z")

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Maybe it’s because I eat food and stuff, but sometimes my hands are just fucking dirty, so I’d still need to wash them even if I didn’t believe in germs.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2297 "2019-02-11T19:37:14Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> I was just about to start a Pit thread about this. Just ew. I suppose he has someone else to wipe his arse.

Taken out of context. Read the article. He was joking. Not that he isn’t a jerk in other ways.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2298 "2019-02-11T23:10:08Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> Taken out of context. Read the article. He was joking. Not that he isn’t a jerk in other ways.

The BBC article I read had no such connotation. I’m glad to hear he was joking.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2299 "2019-02-12T17:08:36Z")

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Dutch historian Rutger Bregman tweeted on Monday night that Carlson called him a “fucking moron” during an interview for his Fox News show before fully melting down. He also posted what appears to be an email, perhaps sent through an assistant, that quotes Carlson calling him “far dumber, more dogmatic and less impressive” than expected.

“Also, for what it’s worth, you’re an asshole,” the message Bregman posted reads.

> **[Man Who Shamed Davos Says Tucker Carlson Called Him a 'Fucking Moron'](https://splinternews.com/historian-who-shamed-davos-elites-says-tucker-carlson-c-1832557382)**
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> Be still, my heart: Dutch historian Rutger Bregman has been on a bit of a wild ride since his appeal for the billionaires at Davos to pay their fair share in taxes went viral. Now he’s accusing Fox News’ Tucker Carlson of melting down at him during...

The interview never ran. Bregman claims that he recorded the interview himself. Here’s hoping he decides to make it public.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2300 "2019-02-12T18:04:33Z")

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From that story: Carlson’s producer responded:

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> Sadly, the guest turned an opportunity to have a substantive, informative discussion into an obviously calculated personal insult campaign. We were disappointed in the segment and respect our audience’s time too much to consider airing it.

Assuming Bregman is telling the truth, the producer seems to have misspelled “host”.

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**Author:** ![SmartAlecCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SmartAlecCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAlecCat)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2301 "2019-02-12T19:26:19Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> I wonder what his thoughts are on God, if he doesn’t believe in things he can’t see.

Luke 11:38

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2302 "2019-02-14T15:24:33Z")

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[Lucas 11:38](https://youtu.be/NKpbt0zwBcc)

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