# Is Fox News really all that bad? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 117
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2323 "2019-03-04T14:59:33Z")
Not sure where. This story just came out this morning. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2324 "2019-03-04T15:16:58Z")
Here’s a January 2018 story about this: > **[Fox News Killed Story on Trump and Porn Star Stormy Daniels](https://www.thecut.com/2018/01/fox-news-reportedly-killed-story-on-trump-and-stormy-daniels.html)** > > During the height of the 2016 election. > [@](#): > > …in October 2016, sources tell CNN that Fox News reporter Diana Falzone brought her editors a story in which Daniels’s manager confirmed the relationship between Trump and her client. Falzone also reportedly saw emails documenting the financial settlement to ensure she never spoke of it again. > Yet Fox apparently killed the story. In a statement to CNN they said there wasn’t enough material to report it. (Falzone filed a gender-discrimination lawsuit against Fox News in March 2017. Fox News has denied the allegation and the case is ongoing.) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2325 "2019-03-04T22:25:21Z")
I haven’t had a chance to digest this yet. It’s an exceedingly long New Yorker story by Jane Mayer that comes out in the 3/11 issue. The headline is: [The Making of the Fox News White House](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/03/11/the-making-of-the-fox-news-white-house) The sub-headline says, “Fox News has always been partisan. But has it become propaganda?” Pretty sure the Moderator’s voice says yes but I am looking forward to delve into it as I am sure it will be packed with evidence and facts that point out how now only was Fox News all that bad, it’s actually gotten worse. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2019, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2326 "2019-03-05T04:27:31Z")
Fox News says that AOC’s Green New Deal would lead to cannibalism. [https://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/Ravenous-hysteria-over-AOC-just-reached-a-new-13661316.php](https://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/Ravenous-hysteria-over-AOC-just-reached-a-new-13661316.php)? ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2327 "2019-03-06T12:35:35Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Knee braces, mobility scooters, diabetic testing supplies. All “at little or no cost to you.” It’s like the Borderline Medicare Fraud channel. > > A few years ago, they were full of adds for places that sold gold, because Obama was going to declare himself king or something. I had a friend that fell for it and paid a huge premium for gold items that were classified as collectibles - so she wouldn’t have to report the purchases to the gummint. But you don’t see that too much now that the President is white I don’t think it’s related at all with Obama because the same gold frenzy was taking place over here. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2328 "2019-03-12T00:31:47Z")
Media Matters has been rolling out clips of leading conservative intellectual Tucker Carlson calling in to a radio show hosted by trusted newsman Bubba The Love Sponge a few years ago. In a series of wide ranging interviews with Mr. Sponge, Mr. Carlson, whose contributions to the conservative philosophical sphere cannot be overstated, called women “primitive”, rallied to the defense of pedophiles, and called Iraqis “semi literate monkeys”. Other titans of conservative intelligentsia, including Jerome Corsi, Bill O’Reilly, and Milo Yiannopoulos, have been busily digesting Carlson’s monograph and have yet to release their analyses. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2329 "2019-03-12T01:49:18Z")
With the passing of Scalia, those three are most likely the only men who can grasp the density of Carlson’s deep political insights. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2330 "2019-03-17T11:10:37Z")
One click led to another and [I ended up learning a little more about FoxNews.](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tucker-carlson-miss-teen-usa-sexually-explicit-comments_n_5c88a56fe4b0fbd7661eff83) That page has a video that gives some insight into Tucker Carlson. If you’re still feeling masochistic [here’s another place to start clicking.](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fox-news-sean-hannity-cnn-perverted-view-country_n_5c875ff0e4b0ed0a0016b3a1) ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2331 "2019-03-28T16:28:18Z")
More Carlson: “[CNN is not a news outlet, it’s a super PAC.](https://thehill.com/media/436241-tucker-carlson-cnn-is-not-a-news-outlet-its-a-super-pac)” ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2019, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2332 "2019-03-30T01:50:16Z")
Fox headline: [**85-year-old pro-lifer attacked while praying outside San Francisco Planned Parenthood: video**](https://www.foxnews.com/us/85-year-old-pro-lifer-attacked-while-praying-outside-san-francisco-planned-parenthood-video) Dirty leftist. He snagged their banner, was absconding with it, when the 85y/o man tried to stop him, by [_sticking the banner pole into the spokes of the thief’s bicycle_](http://www.earnedmedia.org/lldf0325.htm). That last part is missing from the Fox story, which seems to describe the event as an unprovoked attack. The occasion when sticking a pole into a bicycle wheel is: not ever (unless you want to kill someone). ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2019, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2333 "2019-03-31T12:34:39Z")
Actual chiron from Fox & Friends this morning: “Trump cuts U.S. aid to 3 Mexican countries” > ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2334 "2019-04-06T15:41:01Z")
Found on Twitter: “[I hate what they’ve done to almost everyone in my family](https://luke.substack.com/p/i-hate-what-theyve-done-to-almost-39f)”. An article of people reporting their struggles with Fox News. Here’s an excerpt: > [@](#): > > My daughter’s dedication was this weekend, and both my parents and my wife’s parents stayed at our house. Our respective fathers couldn’t even have dinner without it becoming the two of them, loudly, indulging in their angry, ever more hateful fantasies of “what’s really wrong with America.” > > The two of us are worried about letting our daughter stay with them for any long length of time, because their toxic anger and resentment is slowly becoming their entire identity. > > I just know that I’m with you. I hate what they’ve done to almost everyone in my family. It’s absolute poison and the only thing I think is worse is that there are people who think that destroying the morals and conscience of multiple generations is worth a few more bucks, because I absolutely refuse to believe that people like Hannity don’t know what they are doing. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAlecCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SmartAlecCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAlecCat)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2335 "2019-04-12T00:36:39Z")
Just factually incorrect: Trump tweets image of incorrect numbers from Fox: [https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1116299933563478017](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1116299933563478017) It’s hard to see how this could be an accident – replacing 43% with 55%, and claiming pretty steady poll numbers as “soaring approval”. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2336 "2019-04-12T00:43:06Z")
> [@SmartAlecCat](#): > > Just factually incorrect: Trump tweets image of incorrect numbers from Fox: [https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1116299933563478017](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1116299933563478017) > > It’s hard to see how this could be an accident – replacing 43% with 55%, and claiming pretty steady poll numbers as “soaring approval”. Maybe it’s a step towards the Emperor having no clothes, and everyone being expected to play along. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2337 "2019-04-12T16:19:12Z")
LOL, the Fox Newsies have such a hard-on for AOC that they’ve mentioned her 3,181 times in a six week period (75 times a day, 3.15 times an hour, 1 AOC mention every 19 minutes). > ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2338 "2019-04-24T11:13:35Z")
So recently, a vigilante militia that was kidnapping migrants at gunpoint was apprehended. How did Fox News cover it? > > [@](#): > > In summary: > > A right-wing militia group kidnapped migrants/detained them at gun point > > Fox News described it as “trying to help” & “stopping illegals after they cross the border” while highlighting how the groups sees themselves as “patriots” and airing their fundraising pitch Fucking christ! ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2339 "2019-04-24T11:47:07Z")
There’s an article in the left-leaning but generally fair website Vox in which they write about how Fox (with an F) is shaping the narrative for the Mueller report. Predictably, most viewers still believe that Mueller exonerated Trump. > **[Polling shows Fox News has been amazingly effective at shaping opinion on the...](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/4/23/18512347/mueller-report-polling-fox-news-trump)** > > Viewers are buying the pro-Trump spin the network is selling them. As I mentioned on another thread, partisans are going to see Trump through their filters. “The truth” as we know it is probably dead for the foreseeable future. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2340 "2019-04-28T13:59:46Z")
Fox abruptly [cutting to commercial](https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/fox-news-abruptly-cuts-ad-14908254) when the person they are interviewing regarding recent synagogue shootings links it to the increased anti-Semetic rhetoric championed by the Trump administration. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2341 "2019-04-29T21:46:21Z")
For the US’s entire history, Thomas Jefferson sounds about right. The current version started with Newt Gingrich in 1994. ETA. Before that it was the Nixon years, and before that I think you would have to go back to before FDR to the Harding, Coolidge, and Hoover days. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2342 "2019-04-30T03:30:21Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#): > > For the US’s entire history, Thomas Jefferson sounds about right. The current version started with Newt Gingrich in 1994. > > ETA. Before that it was the Nixon years, and before that I think you would have to go back to before FDR to the Harding, Coolidge, and Hoover days. Which thread was that supposed to be in? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=116) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=118)