# Is Fox News really all that bad? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 120
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2383 "2019-06-02T11:30:34Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > She did not move around on her own or make semi-parsable mouth noises. He does appear to have the ability to do those things. The public sees fleeting videotaped images of Terri Schiavo, appearing to many to turn toward her mother’s voice and smile. They hear what sound like moans and laughter. They watch her head move up and down, seemingly following the progress of a brightly colored Mickey Mouse balloon. > **[What do the Schiavo videotapes really show?](https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna7303236)** > > The public sees fleeting videotaped images of Terri Schiavo, appearing to many to turn toward her mother’s voice and smile. But experts say the images give a false impression. Anyway, you just keep on being Captain pedantic over there. The point is Trump doesn’t think as much as react. He says things without actually thinking. That was my point. I’m not the first person to observe this, and his Twitter feed is only one evidence of this. Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2384 "2019-06-10T02:25:00Z")
Fox is fighting against “the global tyranny of the metric system.” [https://twitter.com/steckel/status/1136825825070788608](https://twitter.com/steckel/status/1136825825070788608) Almost impossible to parody. [Veep - Jonah Ryan takes aim at Muslim Math - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=embMAtagQiU) ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2385 "2019-06-10T03:34:49Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Fox is fighting against “the global tyranny of the metric system.” [https://twitter.com/steckel/status/1136825825070788608](https://twitter.com/steckel/status/1136825825070788608) > > Almost impossible to parody. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=embMAtagQiU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=embMAtagQiU) umm, that Youtube link is to an actual parody – I think you meant [this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jl5epgqHac). ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2386 "2019-06-10T03:41:31Z")
Both links were as intended. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2387 "2019-06-10T08:32:30Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Fox is fighting against “the global tyranny of the metric system.” [https://twitter.com/steckel/status/1136825825070788608](https://twitter.com/steckel/status/1136825825070788608) > > Almost impossible to parody. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=embMAtagQiU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=embMAtagQiU) Y’know, I could think of a few people who could benefit from the business end of a guillotine. Or a guillotine up their business end. Whichever. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2388 "2019-06-18T10:55:04Z")
> > [@](#): > > Tucker Carlson warns that Africans are pouring over the southern border and “this flood could become a torrent” – he then warns that they are “overwhelming our country and going to change it completely and forever” As [one of my favorite Twits](https://twitter.com/JuliusGoat/status/1140912785095876608) puts it: > [@](#): > > This is white supremacy with the hood off. He may as well sign off with the 14 words. > > “So you mean you could just turn on cable news and hear a man with the mind of a labradoodle repeat unedited neo Nazi talking points as if it were incisive political commentary?” > > “Yes, son. And then later you could hear the president repeat them. In between were commercials.” And he’s right. This is straight-up white supremacist fearmongering. Fox News employs multiple people who are basically just white supremacists in their opinion sections, and this won’t change until it becomes prohibitively expensive for them to do so. I hear [Sleeping Giants](https://twitter.com/slpng_giants) is trying to make that happen, and are very much worth supporting. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2389 "2019-06-18T11:13:54Z")
As I’ve said before, Carlson is basically Phil Hartmann’s Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer, going on about how normal demographic change frightens him. The conclusion that people ought to be drawing from his diatribes is that he’s a whiny little coward,. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2390 "2019-07-04T15:21:15Z")
Joaquin Castro to Laura Ingraham: “You’re a white supremacist, Laura.” > > > Laura Ingraham @IngrahamAngle T-shirts are available now! [https://teespring.com/you-re-a-laura?fab92795ab](https://teespring.com/you-re-a-laura?fab92795ab) ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2391 "2019-07-04T15:36:46Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > As I’ve said before, Carlson is basically Phil Hartmann’s Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer, going on about how normal demographic change frightens him. The conclusion that people ought to be drawing from his diatribes is that he’s a whiny little coward,. There’s[a video out there](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vMK-p6-M5E) detailing Carlson’s exact career path (and sudden opinion changes). He’s basically an incompetent liar who’s failed upwards and has found a niche by renouncing every principle and shred of journalistic integrity he’d weakly held before. His niche, now, of course, being the darling of the Tiki torch whites. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2392 "2019-07-05T00:23:13Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > There’s[a video out there](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vMK-p6-M5E) detailing Carlson’s exact career path (and sudden opinion changes). He’s basically an incompetent liar who’s failed upwards and has found a niche by renouncing every principle and shred of journalistic integrity he’d weakly held before. His niche, now, of course, being the darling of the Tiki torch whites. I read this post and notice that the link is greyed out: I’ve seen whatever this video is! So I click the link and sure enough, as the video loads and I realize what it is, I chuckle and think “ohhhhh yeah; I remember watching this but didn’t I stop before it finished?” And sure enough, I see the 42:30 timer and 😃 and say “yep”. I watched about half of it before and it was freaking hilarious, but just too long. I’ve actually posted comments in a few of his videos that they’re just too ddamned long sometimes. I’d rather have 3 good 7 minute videos than 1 occasionally good 20 minute video; YMMV. Mr. Johnston does pack a shitload of information into this video, tho. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2393 "2019-07-07T18:57:45Z")
Fox News did a live shot from a sports bar in Lyon, France where the US fans started chanting “Fuck Trump” > ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2394 "2019-07-07T19:03:16Z")
Let’s go to the quarry and throw stuff down there! Talk about seizing an opportunity! ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2395 "2019-07-07T20:42:48Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I read this post and notice that the link is greyed out: I’ve seen whatever this video is! So I click the link and sure enough, as the video loads and I realize what it is, I chuckle and think “ohhhhh yeah; I remember watching this but didn’t I stop before it finished?” And sure enough, I see the 42:30 timer and 😃 and say “yep”. I watched about half of it before and it was freaking hilarious, but just too long. I’ve actually posted comments in a few of his videos that they’re just too ddamned long sometimes. I’d rather have 3 good 7 minute videos than 1 occasionally good 20 minute video; YMMV. > > Mr. Johnston does pack a shitload of information into this video, tho. I take it you won’t be watching his 1 hour and change takedown of Ben Shapiro, then ? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2396 "2019-07-07T22:41:51Z")
I already did. 🙂 I like the guy. I like his schtick and I like his views on things. But it took me like 3 days and 5 sittings to watch that Shapiro video. And I do skip lots of others. I don’t need a 40 minute rant that repeats the top 8 things 75 times. I need an 8 minute rant that nails the 2 biggest things 5 times and all the lesser ones once or twice. Summing up a 1000 page novel in 800 pages isn’t really doing anyone any good IMO. ---
**Author:** ![camerainmyhand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@camerainmyhand](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/camerainmyhand)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2397 "2019-07-10T22:01:13Z")
[https://www.vox.com/2019/7/10/20688767/fox-news-hannity-seth-rich-russia-tucker-carlson-ilhan-omar](https://www.vox.com/2019/7/10/20688767/fox-news-hannity-seth-rich-russia-tucker-carlson-ilhan-omar) From the article: "Tuesday was an especially ugly day for Fox News. It began with revelations that host Sean Hannity helped spread Russian propaganda about Seth Rich’s murder. It ended with an astoundingly racist attack on Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) by host Tucker Carlson. In between, hosts slut-shamed sexual assault accusers and spread misinformation about former President Barack Obama. Put everything together and it encapsulated all the channel’s worst impulses." ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2398 "2019-07-10T22:13:54Z")
> [@camerainmyhand](#): > > [https://www.vox.com/2019/7/10/20688767/fox-news-hannity-seth-rich-russia-tucker-carlson-ilhan-omar](https://www.vox.com/2019/7/10/20688767/fox-news-hannity-seth-rich-russia-tucker-carlson-ilhan-omar) > > From the article: "Tuesday was an especially ugly day for Fox News. > > It began with revelations that host Sean Hannity helped spread Russian propaganda about Seth Rich’s murder. It ended with an astoundingly racist attack on Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) by host Tucker Carlson. In between, hosts slut-shamed sexual assault accusers and spread misinformation about former President Barack Obama. Put everything together and it encapsulated all the channel’s worst impulses." Hmmmm…Trump launched a vicious twitter attack against Fox News on July 7th. I guess they are fighting back with a blowjob. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2399 "2019-07-11T03:10:18Z")
> [@camerainmyhand](#): > > [https://www.vox.com/2019/7/10/20688767/fox-news-hannity-seth-rich-russia-tucker-carlson-ilhan-omar](https://www.vox.com/2019/7/10/20688767/fox-news-hannity-seth-rich-russia-tucker-carlson-ilhan-omar) > > From the article: "Tuesday was an especially ugly day for Fox News. > > It began with revelations that host Sean Hannity helped spread Russian propaganda about Seth Rich’s murder. It ended with an astoundingly racist attack on Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) by host Tucker Carlson. In between, hosts slut-shamed sexual assault accusers and spread misinformation about former President Barack Obama. Put everything together and it encapsulated all the channel’s worst impulses." You have been registered here for over five years and just now you are posting for the first time? Could that be a record for the Dope? /derail ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2400 "2019-07-15T21:52:52Z")
Ex-Fox & Friends host flees to Portugal following fraud accusations: [https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/fox-friends-clayton-morris-portugal-lawsuit-fraud](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/fox-friends-clayton-morris-portugal-lawsuit-fraud) ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2401 "2019-07-15T22:22:59Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Ex-Fox & Friends host flees to Portugal following fraud accusations: > > [Ex-Fox Host Runs Away To Portugal While Getting Sued For Fraud](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/fox-friends-clayton-morris-portugal-lawsuit-fraud) meh Unless he was using his seat on Fox and Friends to promote his alleged Ponzi scheme, I would not include him in this thread. I would limit submissions to this thread to actions by Fox News and Fox entertainment to twist news stories for political influence. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2402 "2019-07-16T03:21:51Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > Unless he was using his seat on Fox and Friends to promote his alleged Ponzi scheme, I would not include him in this thread. Hope you’re sitting down… > [@](#): > > Morris frequently promoted Morris Invest on Twitter while he still worked at Fox News, and he later returned to the network to tout his new career. > > Fox & Friends helped Morris promote his business to viewers in a December 18, 2018, segment about financial tips (the interview is still available on Fox News’ website\*). The show billed the segment as “Clayton shares real estate secrets” and put [MorrisInvest.com](http://MorrisInvest.com) on-screen. > > During the segment, Morris told viewers that they could buy a rental property as a way to earn passive income. “You started buying rentals, right?” Ainsley Earhardt asked Morris. “I did while I was here,” Morris replied. > > At the end of the segment, Fox & Friends and Morris promoted Morris Invest’s YouTube channel. Co-host Brian Kilmeade told Morris: “You explained it in a way even I can understand, which is not easy.” > > [Media Matters](https://www.mediamatters.org/people/clayton-morris) Fox News has since removed the clip, incidentally. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=119) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=121)