# Is Fox News really all that bad? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 124
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2463 "2019-11-22T22:23:05Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Fox News, the Republican Party, and the rest of the conservative movement are looking at protecting the future of conservatism. And if Trump damages the cause, well, time to dump him and move on to the next guy. I actually don’t think that Fox gives a rats ass about the conservative movement much less its long term viability. They aren’t actually ideologues. All they care about is being able to provide the anger, fear, loathing and easy answers that their viewers crave and will keep coming back for. If they distance themselves from the clusterfuck that is the Trump administration, it is only because they want to be far enough away so that when he completely implodes he doesn’t take them with him. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2019, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2464 "2019-11-25T18:02:50Z")
Judge Pirro accused Gordon Sondland of being a “smirking, deep state bureaucrat” and his testimony should be disregarded. The only problem with this accusation is that Sondland has only been the ambassador to the European Union since March 2018 and after donating $1 million to Trump’s Presidential Inaugural Committee. [https://www.joemygod.com/2019/11/pirro-sondland-is-a-smirking-deep-state-bureaucrat/?fbclid=IwAR21s9ZXZAeSSVxz9-I4C9Vmm2PWGJx8G5Zsm2VOZ07h6lbsJOJpC58rWvg](https://www.joemygod.com/2019/11/pirro-sondland-is-a-smirking-deep-state-bureaucrat/?fbclid=IwAR21s9ZXZAeSSVxz9-I4C9Vmm2PWGJx8G5Zsm2VOZ07h6lbsJOJpC58rWvg) ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2465 "2019-11-25T18:36:27Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > Judge Pirro accused Gordon Sondland of being a “smirking, deep state bureaucrat” and his testimony should be disregarded. The only problem with this accusation is that Sondland has only been the ambassador to the European Union since March 2018 and after donating $1 million to Trump’s Presidential Inaugural Committee. > [Pirro: Sondland Is A "Smirking, Deep State Bureaucrat" - Joe.My.God.](https://www.joemygod.com/2019/11/pirro-sondland-is-a-smirking-deep-state-bureaucrat/?fbclid=IwAR21s9ZXZAeSSVxz9-I4C9Vmm2PWGJx8G5Zsm2VOZ07h6lbsJOJpC58rWvg) That just goes to show how \*deep \*the Deep State conspiracy goes, can’t you see ?! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2466 "2019-11-25T20:14:03Z")
He must’ve sunk like a rock to get that deep into the deep state in less than two years. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2019, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2467 "2019-11-26T03:29:47Z")
Tonight Tucker Carlson is rooting for Russia invading Ukraine. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2468 "2019-11-26T16:26:30Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Tonight Tucker Carlson is rooting for Russia invading Ukraine. [link](https://www.thedailybeast.com/tucker-carlson-says-hes-rooting-for-russia-in-conflict-with-ukraine-then-claims-hes-joking) for those too lazy to google ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2019, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2469 "2019-11-26T18:02:38Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > [link](https://www.thedailybeast.com/tucker-carlson-says-hes-rooting-for-russia-in-conflict-with-ukraine-then-claims-hes-joking) for those too lazy to google I hope he explained which part of his quip was the funny part. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2019, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2470 "2019-11-26T18:12:10Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I hope he explained which part of his quip was the funny part. I think the humor might have been in the chyron, which declared the support for impeachment is declining (cf. 538, which shows that in the past few days, it has slid down from 46.3% in favor to a new low of 48.4%). ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2471 "2019-11-27T15:24:25Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > [link](https://www.thedailybeast.com/tucker-carlson-says-hes-rooting-for-russia-in-conflict-with-ukraine-then-claims-hes-joking) for those too lazy to google Wow! Who the fuck watches that complete and utter bullshit? I just lost several IQ points watching that moron. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2472 "2020-01-22T01:42:35Z")
Completely [unbiased](https://twitter.com/DavidJollyFL/status/1219795231765299205) Foxnews chyron. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2473 "2020-01-22T04:58:10Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Completely [unbiased](https://twitter.com/DavidJollyFL/status/1219795231765299205) Foxnews chyron. It reads “Dems push hysterical talking points at trial”. If that program was trying to be an unbiased news source, it failed miserably. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Portlandia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6de8d8/32.png) [@Portlandia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Portlandia)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2474 "2020-01-22T05:06:42Z")
Fox News declares that they don’t spin the news. This is patently false. All they do is spin their news to their audience. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2475 "2020-01-22T06:52:24Z")
> [@Portlandia](#): > > Fox News declares that they don’t spin the news. If that is the case, then they are just telling us that most of what do is not actually news. It is one of those _cave videntium_ kind of obfuscations. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2476 "2020-01-22T07:35:50Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > [link](https://www.thedailybeast.com/tucker-carlson-says-hes-rooting-for-russia-in-conflict-with-ukraine-then-claims-hes-joking) for those too lazy to google I predict that some day there will be a scandal in which it is revealed that Carlson has been taking under the table money from the Russian government. He has a habit of pushing Kremlin talking points. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2477 "2020-01-22T15:14:14Z")
no. Maybe only liberal news stations should be allowed to be on.🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2478 "2020-01-22T16:22:28Z")
Well, that’s **us** told. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2479 "2020-01-22T16:37:53Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > no. Maybe only liberal news stations should be allowed to be on.🆒 This is a telling remark. Back in the 19th century, when choosing a newspaper subscription you had to decide whether you wanted the Republican news or the Democrat news. Then we went into a golden era when news sources were objective and unbiased. We still have objective and unbiased news sources; but unfortunately a huge chunk of the voting public has elected to subscribe to the Republican newspaper (so to speak) and they have no clue what’s actually happening in the world. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2480 "2020-01-22T17:23:55Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > I predict that some day there will be a scandal in which it is revealed that Carlson has been taking under the table money from the Russian government. He has a habit of pushing Kremlin talking points. How quickly people forget that Michael Cohen was also Carlson’s attorney. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2481 "2020-01-22T17:36:47Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > How quickly people forget that Michael Cohen was also Carlson’s attorney. I think you are talking about Hannity. Speaking of him the latest accusations would had been ground for suspending him, firing him or forcing him to quit, but for the corrupt FOX news enterprise it is just another day at the conflict of interest office. > **[Sean Hannity and Fox News are up to their hair plugs in the Lev Parnas affair](https://www.alternet.org/2020/01/sean-hannity-and-fox-news-are-up-to-their-hair-plugs-in-the-lev-parnas-affair)** > > With each new day there are new and damning revelations affirming Donald Trump's criminal behavior related to Ukraine and efforts to manufacture dirt on Joe Biden and subvert the 2020 election. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2482 "2020-01-22T17:40:45Z")
We are at the point where people can choose their own reality with the click of a remote control. So you want to live in a world in which innocent children are put in cages, the world is over heating and the guy you put in charge of it is a socopathic idiot? No? than just change the channel and you can live in a world where you are part of the valiant resistance against the forces of evil and tyranny who are trying to bring down our great white Christian nation. Its far less painful to change the facts to match your world view than it is to change your world view to match the facts. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=123) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=125)