# Is Fox News really all that bad? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 125
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2483 "2020-01-22T18:25:16Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > no. Maybe only liberal news stations should be allowed to be on.🆒 Can you give us an example of one of these “liberal” news stations? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2484 "2020-01-22T18:34:23Z")
“All of them that aren’t Fox” prolly ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2485 "2020-01-22T18:43:45Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > We are at the point where people can choose their own reality with the click of a remote control. So you want to live in a world in which innocent children are put in cages, the world is over heating and the guy you put in charge of it is a socopathic idiot? No? than just change the channel and you can live in a world where you are part of the valiant resistance against the forces of evil and tyranny who are trying to bring down our great white Christian nation. Its far less painful to change the facts to match your world view than it is to change your world view to match the facts. Sad but true! ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2486 "2020-01-22T23:09:36Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > If that is the case, then they are just telling us that most of what do is not actually news. It is one of those _cave videntium_ kind of obfuscations. No, they’re just deranged. They say it about their opinion shows, too. Even O’Reilly and Beck used the “Fair and Balanced” slogan for decades. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2487 "2020-01-25T03:15:42Z")
> [@](#): > > A majority of Republicans (and Republican-leaning independents) don’t trust ANY media company other than Fox News. And two thirds don’t trust ANY media companies other than Fox News and ABC. The next 3 most-trusted media sourced among Republicans? CBS, NBC and, wait for it, the Sean Hannity radio show – all of which are trusted by 3 in 10 people. Eighteen of the 30 media courses that Pew asked about were trusted by less than 1 in 5 Republicans and Republican-leaners. > > Combine those numbers with Fox News’s overwhelming viewership numbers among Republicans (60% get their election news from Fox; no other outlet gets above 30%), and the marked difference between its content and that of all the other mainstream media outlets, and you see a major reason for why we are where we are, politically speaking. > > If you only trust one news outlet and that news outlet is telling a very different – and factually challenged – version of current events, a massive disconnect is created. It’s not too much to say that Fox News viewers are occupying a different (and less fact-based) reality than the people who seek out other sources for their news. [CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/24/politics/donald-trump-fox-news/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2488 "2020-01-28T01:54:58Z")
Complete insanity: [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPVL31sWoAcxd8p?format=jpg&name=small](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPVL31sWoAcxd8p?format=jpg&name=small) ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2489 "2020-01-28T02:24:10Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Complete insanity: [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPVL31sWoAcxd8p?format=jpg&name=small](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPVL31sWoAcxd8p?format=jpg&name=small) I’m on the left, and I think he’s a tool. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2490 "2020-01-28T07:21:55Z")
Brian Stelter did a [rundown](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBhNlDwFcRI)of some of the ways that FOX has been one-sided in its impeachment coverage – it goes far beyond the jedi mind trick captioning, they are not even letting viewers hear the Democrat arguments ---
**Author:** ![phantom\_lamb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@phantom\_lamb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phantom_lamb)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2491 "2020-01-28T12:18:49Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > Brian Stelter did a [rundown](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBhNlDwFcRI)of some of the ways that FOX has been one-sided in its impeachment coverage – it goes far beyond the jedi mind trick captioning, they are not even letting viewers hear the Democrat arguments For some reason I tuned in to Tucker Carlson the other day while impeachment hearings were still going on live… and if I didn’t know any better I’d think Biden and his son were on trial as that is all the discussion was focused on. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2492 "2020-01-28T15:22:43Z")
You think it’s a coincidence that out of 6 R senators that might want to see some witnesses, these are the two they picture: [![](https://i.imgur.com/0pACyjV.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/0pACyjV.png) ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2493 "2020-01-28T20:15:12Z")
**Right-wing media have been laying the groundwork for Trump’s acquittal for half a century.** [Scandalize! Minimize! Repeat as Necessary](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/24/opinion/sunday/impeachment-fox-news.html?searchResultPosition=1) > [@](#): > > To write off Mr. Trump’s wrongdoing as run-of-the-mill politics, then, requires both minimizing what he has done and scandalizing what other politicians do. As an added bonus, the strategy damages Americans’ faith in government and public service, bolstering the Republican Party’s anti-government agenda. As such, it’s a powerful, effective political strategy — and a deeply nihilistic one. > [@](#): > > If you tuned in to Fox News to watch the opening arguments of the impeachment trial on Wednesday night, you were out of luck. Oh, the trial was still technically being broadcast on the network, but it had been reduced to a muted box on the side of the screen, while Sean Hannity assured viewers, “None of this will matter.” > > This was the purest representation so far of conservative media’s efforts to minimize not just impeachment but the full array of President Trump’s misconduct. But minimization is only half the strategy to protect Republican control of the White House. The other half is scandalization: an effort to create an air of nonstop scandal around previous Democratic presidents and presidential hopefuls. > [@](#): > > Even as right-wing media tried to brand the Obama presidency as the most corrupt administration in the history of the United States, a cottage-industry of scandalmongers had already popped up to attack future Democratic nominees. Dinesh D’Souza followed his book “The Roots of Obama’s Rage” with a documentary called “Hillary’s America,” which depicted Mrs. Clinton as radical, racist and corrupt. > > The Breitbart contributor Peter Schweizer followed “Clinton Cash,” a book that helped spread the Uranium One conspiracy, with “Secret Empires,” which targeted Vice President Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden. Mr. Schweizer’s most recent book, “Profiles in Corruption,” provides building blocks for scandals involving a number of 2020 Democratic hopefuls, like the daft tidbit that Senator Elizabeth Warren’s son-in-law produced a film with support from two Iranian organizations. The investors, Mr. Schweizer wrote, “might appear at first glance to be innocuous cultural organizations — but they are not. Both are funded and controlled by the Islamist Iranian government.” It may not seem like much, but as the birtherism conspiracy shows, scandals have been rooted in less. > > These ginned-up scandals have real implications for Donald Trump’s impeachment. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2494 "2020-01-29T04:51:36Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Complete insanity: [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPVL31sWoAcxd8p?format=jpg&name=small](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPVL31sWoAcxd8p?format=jpg&name=small) [Nice piece on the daily show](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AEzA4avnxs) mocking the absurdity of Lou Dobbs’ claims, as well as showing just how much of a flip it is for him to have turned on Bolton. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2020, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2495 "2020-02-02T16:08:58Z")
Fox has done to our parents what our parents thought video games would do to us. - Tweet from Allen Marshall ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2020, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2496 "2020-02-07T00:14:48Z")
In a development that some may find shocking, [even Fox News doesn’t trust Fox News](https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-internal-document-bashes-john-solomon-joe-digenova-and-rudy-giuliani-for-spreading-disinformation)! > [@](#): > > An internal Fox News research briefing book obtained by The Daily Beast openly questions Fox News contributor John Solomon’s credibility, accusing him of playing an “indispensable role” in a Ukrainian “disinformation campaign.” > > The document also accuses frequent Fox News guest Rudy Giuliani of amplifying disinformation, as part of an effort to oust former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch, and blasts Fox News guests Victoria Toensing and Joe diGenova—both ardent Trump boosters—for “spreading disinformation.” > > The 162-page document, entitled “Ukraine, Disinformation, & the Trump Administration,” was created by Fox News senior political affairs specialist Bryan S. Murphy, who produces research from what is known as the network’s Brain Room—a newsroom division of researchers who provide information, data, and topic guides for the network’s programming. ---
**Author:** ![Maddodge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/edb3f5/32.png) [@Maddodge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maddodge)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2497 "2020-02-07T18:22:18Z")
Fox is the inventor of fake news and the reason we live in the age of alternative facts. ---
**Author:** ![Maddodge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/edb3f5/32.png) [@Maddodge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maddodge)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2498 "2020-02-07T18:29:24Z")
> [@Learjeff](#): > > Got a cite for that, or any good search terms? Thanks! > > Regarding bias, try watching/listening all day to Fox News, and on another day, an NPR news station. Then see which of the following match: > > A) Fox News > B) NPR news station > > 1. fear and anger > 2. empathy and concern > > Which do you think matches with which? > Is the stress on the emotion equal between the two? not is not getting paid to tell you the news their staff are mostly volunteers that makes a huge difference between them and the feaux news channel ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2020, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2499 "2020-02-07T18:55:49Z")
> [@Maddodge](#): > > not is not getting paid to tell you the news their staff are mostly volunteers that makes a huge difference between them and the feaux news channel Wait, wut? You think most NPR news staff are volunteers? ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2020, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2500 "2020-02-09T07:45:33Z")
The fucknuckle that Don Jr. most likely modeled his look after - Jerry Falwell Jr - and West Virginia Gov. (and hideous freaking toad monster) Jim Justice\* want the western part of Virginia to [secede and graft\*\*](https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/28/virginia-secession-jerry-falwell-jr-jim-justice-ur/) itself Basket Case-style on to West Virgina in order to fight back the rising tide of that god-awful Democratic Party Totalitarianism that took over aw _poooorrrr_ Virginia last November. > [@](#): > > In what they acknowledged is a long-shot bid, West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice and Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr. urged unhappy Virginia counties Tuesday to secede and join a neighboring state where Democrats aren’t in charge. Glad to at least hear the acknowledgement. > [@](#): > > “If you’re not truly happy where you are, we stand with open arms to take you from Virginia **or anywhere where you may be** ,” said Justice, who’s running for reelection. “We stand strongly behind the Second Amendment and \*\* we stand strongly for the unborn.”\*\* First bolded: hey gee that’s not a dog-whistle for shitheads everywhere, nope. Second bolded: “…we stand strongly on the born.” FTFY. Thankfully, this was the reception: > [@](#): > > The announcement from Falwell and Justice drew laughs from both sides of the aisle in Virginia. > > “What are they doing, a comedy routine?” said Republican Sen. Emmett Hanger. Huh, even an (R.) laughing at this cockamamie shite. \*Hey with a Jusctice-y name like that, what could go wrong? Totally looks like some bloated, miserable national Russian hockey coach from the 70s. \*\* Not first choice of sources, but article seemed, to, er, scan, I spose… ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2020, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2501 "2020-02-09T08:11:50Z")
Brilliant - next time I’ll try to post in the correct thread, in this case possibly the Stupid Republican Idea of the Day Thread. Screw it - claiming a cross-posting mulligan here. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2020, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2502 "2020-02-09T09:57:09Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > The fucknuckle that Don Jr. most likely modeled his look after - Jerry Falwell Jr - and West Virginia Gov. (and hideous freaking toad monster) Jim Justice\* want the western part of Virginia to [secede and graft\*\*](https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/28/virginia-secession-jerry-falwell-jr-jim-justice-ur/) itself Basket Case-style on to West Virgina in order to fight back the rising tide of that god-awful Democratic Party Totalitarianism that took over aw _poooorrrr_ Virginia last November And the ubiquitous joke is that doing so would raise the average IQ of both states. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=124) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=126)