# Is Fox News really all that bad?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2583 "2020-05-15T16:48:39Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> [This](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-botches-unemployment-fatality-figures-related-to-coronavirus) is a lead story on [foxnews.com](http://foxnews.com)
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> “Biden botches unemployment, fatality figures related to coronavirus”
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> He mixed up the death figures and the unemployment figures in one roundtable.
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> Seems clear to me that there is not much dirt Fox can find on Biden.

Oh, so you want to bury the unemployed, and send checks to the dead?

And economic intercourse, what’s that even supposed to mean? Fuck the economy?

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2584 "2020-05-15T17:28:42Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> And economic intercourse, what’s that even supposed to mean? Fuck the economy?

“Intercourse” is a general term the means any kind of activity that involves more than one individual (usually, but not always, human). We are accustomed to using the elliptical form which is the shortened version of “sexual intercourse”.

Or, as they say in Soviet America, “_You don’t fuck economy …_”

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2585 "2020-05-15T17:47:31Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Oh, so you want to bury the unemployed, and send checks to the dead?
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> And economic intercourse, what’s that even supposed to mean? Fuck the economy?
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> :rolleyes:

I heard he told the crowd he was going to Intercourse, PA next. And everyone laughed at the senile old man.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2586 "2020-05-15T18:43:57Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> “Intercourse” is a general term the means any kind of activity that involves more than one individual (usually, but not always, human). We are accustomed to using the elliptical form which is the shortened version of “sexual intercourse”.
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> Or, as they say in Soviet America, “_You don’t fuck economy …_”

Yes, yes, I was just making light of the term. I used to tell people that I wanted to have interlocutor intercourse with them. Most didn’t take it all that well.

> [@Slash1972](#):
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> I heard he told the crowd he was going to Intercourse, PA next. And everyone laughed at the senile old man.

That’s because they knew he’d take a wrong turn after Mountville and end up in Blue Ball.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2587 "2020-05-17T04:39:55Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> That’s because they knew he’d take a wrong turn after Mountville and end up in Blue Ball.

Maybe he should avoid French Lick in any trip to Indiana.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2588 "2020-05-22T18:57:05Z")

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Sean Hannity exposes the awful truth about Bernie Sanders:

> <https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1263506253940228097>

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2589 "2020-05-22T21:25:33Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> Sean Hannity exposes the awful truth about Bernie Sanders:
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> [https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1263506253940228097](https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1263506253940228097)

It’s just the break that the Biden campaign has been waiting for!

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2590 "2020-05-22T21:40:26Z")

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In fairness to Faux News, a Twitter post is not a Fox action.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2591 "2020-05-22T22:12:21Z")

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Trump agrees that Fox News is bad!

> [@](#):
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> From the business perspective of Fox News, this is about as unhelpful a tweet as President Trump could have offered.
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> ```
> ....Hahn, Richard Goodstein, Donna Brazile, Niel Cavuto, and many others. They repeat the worst of the Democrat speaking points, and lies. All of the good is totally nullified, and more. Net Result = BAD! CNN & MSDNC are all in for the Do Nothing Democrats! Fox WAS Great!
> — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 21, 2020
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> ```
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> In his tweet, the president makes explicit the subtext at which he’s hinted in the past, when offering complaints about how Fox had “forgotten the people that got them there” — meaning, of course, his and the network’s shared base of conservatives and Republicans. Previously, he had chastised Fox for allowing Democratic voices on the airwaves without articulating the other side of the coin. Here, he’s just saying it: Fox isn’t helping to elect Republicans, which, it clearly follows, they ought to be doing.

> **[Analysis | Trump takes a big bite out of Fox News, the hand that feeds his base](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/05/21/trump-takes-big-bite-out-fox-news-hand-that-feeds-his-base/)**
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> The president may just be trying to pressure the network, but if he really thinks it doesn't help him, he's very wrong.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2592 "2020-05-22T22:23:14Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> Sean Hannity exposes the awful truth about Bernie Sanders:
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> [https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1263506253940228097](https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1263506253940228097)

It is pertaining to [a thing on his own website](https://hannity.com/media-room/comrade-bernie-our-job-is-to-recognize-our-common-humanity-and-ensure-all-people-live-in-dignity/) which includes the astute observation  
_Sanders confused millions of users on social media this week; bizarrely asserting that the United States can only “avoid another Great Depression” if US workers “continue to receive a paycheck.”_

Clearly Bernie is demented to think, of all things, that we would need _people_ to sustain a consumer-based economy.

While this is hoseted by “iHeartMedia”, Hannity does get a lot of his traction and savwahrfair from being highly visible on Fox.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2593 "2020-05-22T23:17:38Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> Sean Hannity exposes the awful truth about Bernie Sanders:
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> [https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1263506253940228097](https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1263506253940228097)

Best reply: “Better nip this kind of thinking in the bud. Before you know it, people will be saying really crazy stuff, like 'love your neighbor.”

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2594 "2020-05-22T23:31:04Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> In a very narrow and technical sense the Mueller report _does_ clear the Trump campaign of conspiring with the Russian government, although it was mostly because the Trump campaign were [too incompetent](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/azeenghorayshi/mueller-report-dmitry-klokov)to participate in the Russian efforts to interfere in the election. Note that “collusion” was never within the scope of the investigation as it is not a legal term of any significance.
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> The report does, however, set out over 100 instances of direct interaction by the Russian government and its agents with the Trump campaign with the intent to influence the election. Also note that multiple US intelligence agencies confirmed Russian interference in the election before the Mueller investigation kicked off, and and six close Trump campaign and administration members were indicted and convicted of felony perjury committed to hide interactions with Russia (now minus Flynn, although he’d previous pled guilty to it). Sessions was also going to be investigated for perjuring himself to hide meetings with Russia but simply fired the investigator, and Kushner repeatedly “forgot” to mention his meetings with Russia in his security clearance application (something which is itself a felony).
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> So anyone genuinely thinking that the Russia thing is a “hoax” has clearly been immersed in the alternative reality that is presented by FoxNews and the rest of the far-right media bubble.

The Mueller report was missing something…oh yeah! a dt deposition. It can’t clear anyone of anything

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2595 "2020-06-13T11:55:54Z")

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I’d never heard of Harris Faulkner until a moment ago when [I watched a clip of her](https://www.foxnews.com/media/harris-faulkner-trump-why-tweeted-when-looting-starts-shooting) on _FOX & friends_. Ms. Faulkner interviewed Potus to ask why he tweeted “Looting … shooting”, reports on that interview, and then cautiously admits, very gently, that Trump never answered the question.

Faulkner is obviously a token black at Fox. Is she also a token rational thinker?

Especially amusing is when the clip shows all four “_friends_” — the other three _friends_ have peculiarly glum expressions and never even try to fake a smile: I wonder why? Are they thinking “Ooops, I’m afraid some of our viewers are almost smart enough to realize that Faulkner is mocking Dear Potus, but she’s subtle enough that we can’t start screaming at her.”

Or are they all just thinking “What will my kids and grand-kids think of me when they find out I’m a shill at Fox? I’ve told them I work in a whore-house.”

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2596 "2020-06-13T13:19:52Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> …  
> Or are they all just thinking “What will my kids and grand-kids think of me when they find out I’m a shill at Fox? I’ve told them I work in a whore-house.”

😃

That made me laugh right out loud. In [del]pubic[/del] public.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2597 "2020-06-13T14:54:44Z")

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Fox photoshopped a masked gunman into a scene of the Seattle CHAZ:

> **[Fox News runs digitally altered images in coverage of Seattle's protests,...](https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/fox-news-runs-digitally-altered-images-in-coverage-of-seattles-protests-capitol-hill-autonomous-zone/)**
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> The image Fox used was a digitally altered mashup of photos from different days, taken by different photographers in Seattle.

> [@](#):
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> The image, as displayed on the Fox News website, was spliced with other photos, including a photo of a smashed retail storefront in May, making it look as though the scene was all playing out concurrently in the autonomous zone. “It is definitely Photoshopped,” confirmed Ryder. “To use a photo out of context in a journalistic setting like that seems unethical.”

Fox unethical??! Unpossible!

Maybe they’ll run a correction, but I have no desire to view their site.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2598 "2020-06-13T15:07:49Z")

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I love how you can see the people walking by as reflections in a smashed-out window.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2599 "2020-06-13T17:28:15Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> 😃
> 
> That made me laugh right out loud. In [del]pubic[/del] public.

I’m glad you laughed, but I cannot claim originality. I even used the line 2 years ago at SDMB, though that time with attribution. (I saw it during the Presidency of a certain R.M. Nixon.)

> [@What jobs would you hate to do?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-jobs-would-you-hate-to-do/807041/55):
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> When I saw thread title, what popped into my mind was a headline almost a half-century ago from the _Berkeley Barb_:  
> _Don’t tell my mother I’m a White House aide; she thinks I’m the piano player in a whore-house._

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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2600 "2020-06-14T00:02:21Z")

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> **[Fox News publishes digitally altered and misleading images of Seattle...](https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/13/media/seattle-fox-news-autonomous-zone-protest/index.html)**
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> Fox News published digitally altered and misleading images on its website's homepage Friday that made a demonstration in Seattle, in which a group of largely peaceful Black Lives Matter protesters have occupied six city blocks, appear violent and...

Fox publishes digitally altered photos. Gets called out, retracts.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2601 "2020-06-14T02:27:22Z")

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The only surprising thing about that is the last word.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2602 "2020-06-14T03:18:48Z")

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[Fox News fell for a Monty Python joke on Reddit](https://twitter.com/jbillinson/status/1271885483057037312)

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