# Is Fox News really all that bad?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2703 "2021-01-21T22:01:16Z")

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There is a pip in the upper right-hand corner for The Daily Show with Trevor Noah. I do not know the underlying context – they are mostly not a satire show, but they have been known to make stuff up.

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2704 "2021-01-21T22:14:29Z")

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I fucking hate you all (okay, not really, but still). I skimmed through the entire Hannity Show last night trying to find this. While I easily lost at least 20 IQ points and really wanted to smash my computer screen (holy fuck, he and his guests are shitstains), I did not see that chyron, and their chyrons typically stay on the screen for a bit. Some of the highlights were when Jim Jordan was part of the show and there were no obvious sexual assaults of minors going on around him. I guess that’s progress.

It also didn’t appear to be from last night’s Daily Show, which I watched (Stacey Abrams, and all of the people she works with, rocks!).

My guess is that it was a shop on an earlier episode of the Daily Show exposing how most of us assume Fox will behave post inauguration.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2705 "2021-01-21T23:59:10Z")

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Current Fox News website headline: “Elderly woman serial killer suspect arrested by the NYPD”

Wow, you don’t get a lot of serial killer grannies, so that’s _news_.

Actually, the NYPD arrested a suspect (a 66-year-old man) _in the killings of elderly women_. Not as exciting. ☹ .

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2706 "2021-01-22T04:41:17Z")

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While I now believe that that one is faked, this one is definitely real.

[[Album] Oh Tucker. ![](https://i.imgur.com/J2TDpfS.jpeg?fb "Oh Tucker.") ](https://imgur.com/a/oIYtyzn)

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2707 "2021-01-22T04:48:03Z")

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> [@DMC](#):
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> While I now believe that that one is faked

From what I have been able to find, it seems to have been an image from Tuesday night, a sort of prediction. In the end, it was not all that far off the mark. At least, as far as Hannittee is concerned.

> <https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1352016880429535234>

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2708 "2021-01-22T05:58:51Z")

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Heh, I’m surprised I haven’t seen something along the lines of:

“Unemployment on Trump’s first day in office was 4.7%. Unemployment on Biden’s first day in office was 6.9%, any questions?”

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2021, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2709 "2021-06-06T14:37:23Z")

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Great headline on the Fox News website today:

“CALLISTA AND NEWT GINGRICH: Remembering D-Day – they risked everything in biggest gamble of World War II”

Wow, I never realized that the Gingriches won WWII for us. Live and learn.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2021, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2710 "2021-06-12T05:19:04Z")

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Of course he did. It was a huge sacrifice. Those nazi witches turned him into a newt!

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2711 "2021-06-18T20:06:43Z")

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A little disclosure about those concerned parents opposing “critical race theory” that Fox News has been promoting all over the place:  
[Fox’s anti-“critical race theory” parents are also GOP activists | Media Matters for America](https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/foxs-anti-critical-race-theory-parents-are-also-gop-activists)

(NOT)Surprise!

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2712 "2021-06-19T11:52:29Z")

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I don’t see a mention yet about Carlson [blaming the Jan 6th riots on the FBI] ([Tucker Carlson baselessly claims 'FBI operatives were organizing the attack on the Capitol,' his latest whitewashing of Jan. 6](https://news.yahoo.com/tucker-carlson-baselessly-claims-fbi-142102760.html)) (Yahoo. Sorry; browsing slow on phone at the moment)

It strikes me as something of a turning point. While we could speculate that Carlson lives in a right-wing bubble prior to this, I think this time there can be little doubt he:

1. Knows this is absolute nonsense
2. Knows how dangerous this nonsense is

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2713 "2021-06-19T23:50:33Z")

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> **[Parents who opposed critical race theory on Fox News are GOP activists,...](https://www.nbcnews.com/media/parents-opposed-critical-race-theory-fox-news-are-gop-activists-report-rcna1216)**
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> The liberal watchdog group Media Matters detailed how 11 guests promoted as concerned parents are also involved in conservative politics.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2714 "2021-06-19T23:53:11Z")

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Sounds familiar.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2715 "2021-06-19T23:55:20Z")

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Oh, sorry. Did someone already post it?

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2716 "2021-06-20T07:19:48Z")

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C’mon, they put a ‘D’ after their names what more could they do?

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2717 "2021-06-25T18:28:58Z")

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Tucker Carlson has always been an asshole, but I feel like he’s gone full Order 66 recently i.e. he knows he’s tearing apart democracy and the rule of law, and decided to not even pretend otherwise.

First you had the aforementioned claim that the FBI were behind the Jan 6th riots, and doubling down on this. Not JAQ any more; outright making the claim, when he must know that this is a complete pile of bollocks.

But now, in response to some fairly innocuous comments from General Mark Milley on the teaching of black history in military academies, [Tucker described him](https://taskandpurpose.com/news/tucker-carlson-mark-milley-attacks/) as “not just a pig. He’s stupid.” and “a coward”, who only got his position from reading out what he had been told to.  
Needless to say, none of these childish insults were based on any facts or accounts; General Milley of course obtained his position by being both very bright and very badass according to the people who served with him in Iraq, Afghanistan etc.

I wonder if it is due to Jan 6th? I mean, Tucker was definitely at the center of those stirring up bullshit about the election. In the aftermath of that, all the right-wing commentators perhaps had some doubts about what they do, and then need to decide to either step back from the precipice (though I don’t know any), or fully commit to it.  
(Of course covid should also have been a moment of realization too; I can’t imagine living with the knowledge that I whined about a hoax virus and then 600k americans died).

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2718 "2021-06-28T17:43:11Z")

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Subheadline on the Fox News website today:

_“Biden nominee called for population control to protect environment”_

How…shocking.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2719 "2021-06-28T19:16:59Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> It strikes me as something of a turning point. While we could speculate that Carlson lives in a right-wing bubble prior to this, I think this time there can be little doubt he:
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> 1. Knows this is absolute nonsense
> 2. Knows how dangerous this nonsense is

1. Knows that this will make him more popular (more money) with the suckers/marks.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2720 "2021-06-30T13:40:58Z")

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They’re at least this bad:

> **[Fox News fined $1 million for sex harassment and retaliation](https://apnews.com/article/business-bb1821506bea0d8537f5aabfd570b179)**
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> New York City's human rights commission has fined Fox News $1 million for violation of laws protecting against sexual harassment and job retaliation.

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> The New York City Commission on Human Rights has fined Fox News $1 million, the largest penalty in its history, for violations of laws protecting against sexual harassment and job retaliation.
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> As part of a settlement agreement announced Tuesday, Fox also agreed to mandate anti-harassment training for its New York-based staff and contributors and to temporarily drop a policy requiring people who allege misconduct to enter into binding arbitration.
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> The penalty stems from an investigation that began in 2017 following several reports of what the commission called “rampant abuse” at the popular news and opinion outlet.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2721 "2021-06-30T14:47:14Z")

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Why are they only “temporarily” dropping the policy about whistleblowers?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2722 "2021-06-30T14:49:52Z")

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Not FoxNews _per se_, but my cousin was watching news on the local FoxTV affiliate during which reporter Dorkmeister (not his actual name) was talking about a European withdrawal-from-Afghanistan announcement and the text of the announcement was displayed behind Dorkmeister _in German_. This might make sense if this area were home to a lot of German immigrants, but it is not, so the graphic looked to him more like some sort of dogwhistle.

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