# Is Fox News really all that bad?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2743 "2021-08-12T17:43:00Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Who the hell owns a pet cobra?

People fascinated by “hot” snakes to the point of wanting to keep one or more. I’ve known a few - intelligent, reasonably normal people in other regards. But with a severe lack of common sense in that one area.

As it is there is still a hierarchy of stupidity here. One of the tamer, slower-moving, less toxic species like say my local to me species of rattlesnake is one thing. DUMB IMHO, but not a walking (slithering) death sentence. I know one fellow who took three bites from various rattlesnakes (Western and Red Diamondbacks I believe) he owned or otherwise handled over the years, the last of which hospitalized him as he had become allergically sensitized to antivenin. In every instance it was careless handling because he had become complacent and accidents happen with even the tamest of snakes. But most rattlesnake bites in the US aren’t usually going to kill an adult, unpleasant though they may be (there are a few exceptions). There about 5 deaths a year out of several thousand cases/year of envenomation (mostly copperheads and various rattlesnakes) in the US.

But owning a Forest Cobra (which that one essentially is, it’s a split off a large cryptic species complex) is beyond idiotic. Because a forest cobra is virtually a mamba with a hood. Big, strong, fast, agile, very nervous, very aggressive and incredibly toxic.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2744 "2021-08-26T00:10:55Z")

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The Daily Show clip. Faux News commentary concerning the full FDA approval of the Pfizer covid vaccine vs. what Faux News had to say about Operation Warp Speed. The fucksticks. I’m sorry, anyone that gets their “news” or their opinions from Faux is a stupid, stupid person.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/WsG2TmyNktA/maxresdefault.jpg "Fox News on the FDA’s Vax Approval vs. Operation Warp Speed | The Daily Show") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsG2TmyNktA)

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2745 "2021-09-15T01:54:34Z")

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I used to think it was the Fox News channel that was really bad and the website was still OK’ish. I’ve criticized the website for playing stuff up or overlooking things but they have now gone over the top into the deranged zone. Their top story has the headline of “New$om’s Golden State”. WTF? And of course not a mention on the entire page about Elder fake claims of voter fraud.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/ZuqytVi.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/ZuqytVi.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2746 "2021-09-15T05:44:28Z")

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Why does fox hate wealthy businesses? Are they communists or something?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2747 "2021-09-15T08:48:29Z")

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So they’re saying that the Democrats are good for business. That’s nice of them.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2748 "2021-09-15T21:15:25Z")

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FWIW, there’s now a French version of Fox News.

> **[A Fox-Style News Network Rides a Wave of Discontent in France (Published 2021)](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/14/world/europe/france-cnews-fox-far-right.html)**
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> CNews, the news network created by the billionaire Vincent Bolloré, topped the ratings in May by giving a new bullhorn for right-wing views on crime, immigration, climate and Covid.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2749 "2021-09-15T22:40:25Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> I used to think it was the Fox News channel that was really bad and the website was still OK’ish. I’ve criticized the website for playing stuff up or overlooking things but they have now gone over the top into the deranged zone.

The website has consisted mainly of editorials in the guise of news, repetitive flogging of tired memes and bikini shots of fading actresses for quite some time now.

Years ago, if someone saw you with a copy of the wretched tabloid N.Y. Daily News, a popular excuse for having it was that you found it on the subway. It’s harder to explain when caught surfing Fox News.

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2750 "2021-09-16T01:14:23Z")

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you think fox is bad? heh

Apparently, MSN in the interests of fairness decided to add “more conservative voices” to its newsfeed at first it was national review and the normal mainstream conservative spots then all of a sudden I came across the “Washington examiner” which is so partisan that you’d think trump and co were bankrolling it

Supposedly it’s supposed to counteract the post … and it fails spectacularly

Heres a sample from today:

[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/california-voters-get-what-they-deserve/ar-AAOudTB?li=BB141NW3&ocid=SK2DDHP](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/california-voters-get-what-they-deserve/ar-AAOudTB?li=BB141NW3&ocid=SK2DDHP)

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2751 "2021-09-16T08:18:26Z")

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Oh yeah, both the Washington Times (run by the Moonies) and the Washington Examiner are unapologetically hard-right. I’m not saying I’ve _never_ found a useful article in them, but if there’s a chance to spin the story to smear the left, they’ll do it.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2752 "2021-09-16T12:59:29Z")

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The Right Wing media has managed to keep its viewership in a state of fear for decades, and frightened people (especially ones whose identities are tied up in being the independent Alpha Male in any imagined situation, or the dutiful Helpmeet to him) are very easy to influence.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2753 "2021-09-16T22:33:36Z")

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Surprised no-one posted this already, but regarding the “story” of Nicki Minaj’s cousin’s friend claiming the vaccine gave him swollen testicles [Tucker Carlson made a public on-air appeal for Nicki Minaj’s cousin’s friend to get in touch with the show to talk about his balls](https://youtu.be/RVMrSADY2Pc?t=670).

I should just leave it there, but let’s also reflect on how this particular piece of high school gossip would prove absolutely nothing. I got the vaccine, then the following week I injured my bicep. Can I be on the show?

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2754 "2021-09-17T00:13:56Z")

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Tucker could always just invite the two swollen testicles directly and cut out the cousin’s friend’s personal trainer’s dog groomer.

[![](https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/2012/03/14/36944379-a644-11e2-a3f0-029118418759/91281741.jpg) ](https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/2012/03/14/36944379-a644-11e2-a3f0-029118418759/91281741.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2755 "2021-09-17T00:55:12Z")

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Yep, the left one is usually a little lower 😄

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2756 "2021-09-17T05:13:52Z")

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Do those guys have more than one between them to swell?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2757 "2021-09-17T08:37:12Z")

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The vaccine turned me into a newt!

I got better

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2758 "2021-09-17T14:42:59Z")

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Thanks for the hearty laugh! 🤣

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2759 "2021-09-19T04:46:16Z")

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Some newts get worse, though.

> **[Newt Gingrich Goes Full ‘Great Replacement Theory’ on Fox](https://news.yahoo.com/newt-gingrich-goes-full-great-175339620.html)**
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> His comments are just the latest example of the network’s elevation of a racist fringe theory.

Also, with Fox help, Newt claimed that Biden was a socialist that hated businesses and the law because Newt claimed that Biden exempted the Post Office from the vaccine mandate. Not true.

> **[Newt Gingrich: If you are a big government socialist, you despise the law](https://www.foxnews.com/media/newt-gingrich-if-you-are-a-big-government-socialist-you-despise-the-law)**
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> President Biden last week announced new COVID-19 vaccination mandates for private companies that critics say are unconstitutional. Newt Gingrich spoke about the issue during an appearance Monday night on "The Ingraham Angle."

Of course, Newt and FOX omitted that the Post Office falls under OSHA control and that makes the Post Office follow the vaccine mandate too.

> **[Fact check: Postal workers to follow OSHA vaccine guidance, White House says](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/09/16/fact-check-postal-workers-follow-osha-vaccine-guidance/8295566002/)**
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> Postal workers will be required to abide by the Department of Labor’s Occupational Safety and Health Administration's vaccine rules.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2760 "2021-09-27T18:22:03Z")

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How did we miss this one?

During an interview on Fox News Sunday, August 8, anchor Brett Baier asked Peter Buttigieg, Transportation Secretary, why Tesla CEO Elon Musk had not been invited to a White House meeting on tailpipe emissions.

“Why was that?” the Fox News host asked. “Was it because Testa is not unionized?”

Buttigieg patiently explained that the meeting was called to announce “tailpipe emissions standards” and that electric cars don’t have tailpipes.

> **[Pete Buttigieg busts Fox News over uninformed question on electric cars:...](https://www.rawstory.com/amp/pete-buttigieg-fox-news-tesla-2654580864)**
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> Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg schooled Fox News host Bret Baier on electric cars over the weekend.During an interview on Fox News Sunday, Baier asked Buttigieg why Tesla CEO Elon Musk had not been invited to a White House meeting on...

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**Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2761 "2021-09-27T18:32:41Z")

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Man, was he patient! I would have said, “uh, I’m sorry, are you asking why we didn’t invite an all-electric car maker to a meeting about tailpipe emissions??” I would have put Al Gore to shame with all of my eye-rolls.

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**Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2762 "2021-09-27T18:35:22Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Buttigieg patiently explained that the meeting was called to announce “tailpipe emissions standards” and that electric cars don’t have tailpipes. -

“Oh yeah, smart guy? Where does their exhaust go then ,huh?”  
😉

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