# Is Fox News really all that bad? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 139
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2763 "2021-09-27T20:47:51Z")
Baiers “expert panels” are just an insult to the intelligence. He is just as bad as the non news side. Worse probably because it lends credence and cover for antiAmerican antidemocracy. The eyerolling, snark, and smirking cynicism of the (3) cons present are off the charts, just evil and transparently so. The (1) token Dem making peace with them reminds one of Neville Chamberlain. The last word always goes to the fascist. They duck any issue that will involve a conservative having to reflect or think about bad stuff, for their side. No one should ever call this news. How can Baeir sit there and do this? How can Rachel Maddow claim he has any integrity at all? I bet she’s not doing that these days. His interest in the US open golf tournament is so much just pretending he is a real newscaster with a soul, like Walter Cronkite or something. They have become so fake they are faking themselves out. Just wretched. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2764 "2021-09-30T22:31:22Z")
I just heard Baier interviewing Youngkin, who is running against McAuliffe for VA Gov. The guy is yelling about how TM is going to let abortions occur “up to birth”. On a news show what should we expect of the interviewer in this situation? Some true thing about truth? Forget it. Baier is in on the scam. He is bad news. What is he thinking? ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2765 "2021-10-03T17:09:10Z")
Fox News tweets that Senator Duckworth doesn’t pay property tax on her Illinois home. You have to read the article (or the angry replies) to learn that that is because the exemption for _disabled veterans_ nulls out the tax on the property. So much for supporting the military. > ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2766 "2021-11-24T01:14:47Z")
Well, Fox News is at least _this_ bad: > **[Two Fox contributors quit, citing 'irresponsible' voices](https://apnews.com/article/arts-and-entertainment-media-tucker-carlson-jonah-goldberg-153c988b675cc5bfdce8e30912886f8d)** > > NEW YORK (AP) — Two writers who have been paid contributors to Fox News Channel have resigned, citing Tucker Carlson's “Patriot Purge” documentary on last January's U.S. Capitol insurrection as a last straw for them. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2767 "2021-11-30T19:40:35Z")
I’m really not trying to threadshit, but this discussion has been going on for more than nine years. I have neither the time nor the inclination to read all 2700+ posts, so I’ll just repeat what I asked in January of 2019: _are we there yet?_ Or, consistent with a more accurate usage of “repeat”: _Have we concluded whether or not Fox News is really all that bad?_ TIA ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2768 "2021-11-30T23:36:56Z")
Nope. As I often say: A news outlet can’t be considered “bad” until more than 3000 examples of lying and misleading viewers can be presented. We’re not there yet, so let’s not judge FOX too rashly. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2769 "2021-11-30T23:54:43Z")
“Bad” is not enough, one must prove that it’s _that bad_. ---
**Author:** ![SingleMalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/singlemalt/32/3961_2.png) [@SingleMalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleMalt)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2770 "2021-12-01T01:04:24Z")
Every time we think that Fox is that bad, something new happens and we realize that, no, they’re actually _that_ bad. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2771 "2021-12-01T11:05:57Z")
We’ll get there when their bar for journalistic integrity has been lowered so far it punches through the Earth’s crust and into the mantle. So…next Tuesday? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2772 "2021-12-01T11:43:44Z")
Two weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2773 "2021-12-01T16:42:03Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > We’ll get there when their bar for journalistic integrity has been lowered so far it punches through the Earth’s crust and into the mantle. Will this be covered under the infrastructure bill? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2774 "2021-12-01T16:48:35Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > We’ll get there when their bar for journalistic integrity has been lowered so far it punches through the Earth’s crust and into the mantle. > > So…next Tuesday? - That’s the GOP to the core. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2775 "2021-12-01T16:50:08Z")
Now _there’s_ a slogan we can all get behind: GOP to the core! ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2776 "2021-12-01T18:49:25Z")
Maybe @Beckdawrek can add in a few Googolplexes of Bads to adequately illustrate the point. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2777 "2021-12-03T14:42:49Z")
I’m having trouble deciding which of today’s Fox News stories I give less of a rat’s ass about - the one headlined “Prince William hasn’t returned Prince Harry’s phone calls for months”, or “Real Housewives’ star Braunwyn Windham-Burke packs on PDA\* with new girlfriend during beach day in Miami”. The one about Massachusetts native (and ex-Notre Dame football coach) Brian Kelly faking a southern accent in a public appearance before L.S.U. fans is a hoot, though. \*Personal Data Assistant? Pounds Due to Avocados? ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2778 "2021-12-03T16:27:43Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > I’m having trouble deciding which of today’s Fox News stories I give less of a rat’s ass about - the one headlined “Prince William hasn’t returned Prince Harry’s phone calls for months”, or “Real Housewives’ star Braunwyn Windham-Burke packs on PDA\* with new girlfriend during beach day in Miami”. Just in case you, or someone else reading this, can’t guess, I’d be willing to bet PDA is Public Displays of Affection. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2779 "2021-12-03T17:07:36Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > “Prince William hasn’t returned Prince Harry’s phone calls for months” Which ones are those again? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2780 "2021-12-03T17:25:23Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > … star Braunwyn Windham-Burke packs on PDA\* with new girlfriend during beach day in Miami” … > > \*Personal Data Assistant? Pounds Due to Avocados? Pendulous Derrière Avoirdupois ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2781 "2021-12-03T23:20:07Z")
Oo, and a followup Fox headline not tempting me to click on it: “Kyle Rittenhouse reveals his first meal after leaving prison” ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2782 "2021-12-04T00:42:56Z")
[Wait, he was in prison? When? ([y](https://www.foxnews.com/us/kyle-rittenhouse-reveals-first-meal-leaving-prison))es, it really was a “story”) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=138) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=140)