# Is Fox News really all that bad? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 141
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2803 "2021-12-14T16:21:41Z")
This was this morning’s nausea-inducer for me. [not to sealion, but] @Sam_Stone : this is the kind of thing that really – to my recollection – doesn’t have an analogue at any of the major left-of-center news organizations. And, as somebody who believes that you can only do what the organization supports, I’m sure Ingram and Hannity’s on-air comments on 1/6 were – as was said of Nuremberg – ‘following orders.’ And as to 45 … At least, on 9/11, when the “nation was under attack,” 43 only read “My Pet Goat” for something like seven minutes. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2804 "2021-12-14T16:38:04Z")
First, there’s the impropriety of the network having a direct pipeline to the White House and using it in an advisory manner. JFC. Second, hours after pleading with Don Donald to stop things before they got out of hand, those same opinion leaders were on air saying something entirely different (and have continued since). Fox is a threat to American democracy. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2805 "2021-12-14T16:41:27Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > all those Fox hypocrites now say that day was just a walk in the park “Terrorist” and “tourist” are similar-sounding words, and if you ask Europeans what American tourists are like, well, maybe the defendants should have demanded a change of venue to Marseille, where their “just a tourist” defense might have been genuinely effective. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2806 "2021-12-14T17:54:12Z")
I think he is probably the best of the worst. As the old joke goes, Chris Wallace going form Fox to CNN, causes the average integrity of both news organizations to go down sharply. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2807 "2021-12-14T17:55:48Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > I haven’t really watched him on Fox, but my understanding is that he has been considered to be one of the only journalists on Fox who would actually ask tough questions of his interview subjects …then answer the question himself without letting the interviewee get a word in edgewise. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2808 "2021-12-14T18:07:40Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > One was of that Ainsley (?) woman who sits between Doucey and Kilmeade calling Christmas trees important to Hanukhah. Not that it’s relevant; the actual holiday celebrated at Fox News is Festivus. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2809 "2021-12-14T19:37:01Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Not that it’s relevant; the actual holiday celebrated at Fox News is Festivus. Well, they certainly have The Airing of Grievances worked out. If they’d have the integrity to also do The Feats of Strength, we’d at least get to see a few of them get beat up. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2810 "2021-12-15T19:06:51Z")
In [this rant about the burning tree](https://www.foxnews.com/transcript/tucker-media-needs-to-stop-lying-about-violent-crime), bow-tie-guy asserts that dangerous drug-addicted mentally ill homeless people are still out there roaming the streets because “they are a protected class”. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2811 "2021-12-15T20:26:25Z")
Aye; “Reagan’s Legacy”, we call them. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2812 "2021-12-15T23:05:50Z")
How is fair and balanced covering the House Jan. 6 investigation? I just looked and didn’t see anything but I’ve missed coverage before, to my chagrin. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2813 "2021-12-16T20:21:53Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > It looks like the son of Mike Wallace has jumped ship, so, howsoever bad Fox News has been, they now have significantly less non-badness. I think it means that we’re getting old, that we still think of this 70+ year old as “Mike Wallace’s kid”. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2814 "2021-12-25T01:34:23Z")
The Fox News website has the most tragic headline _ever_. “Christmas without Rush Limbaugh” I teared up. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2815 "2021-12-25T16:58:47Z")
Poked yourself in the eye, did you? ---
**Author:** ![Kelby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a587f6/32.png) [@Kelby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kelby)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2816 "2021-12-25T18:11:11Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > The Fox News website has the most tragic headline _ever_. > > “Christmas without Rush Limbaugh” > > I teared up. I agree with about .0001% of what Rush Limbaugh said, but he said it well, as a refined propagandist. Listening to Dan Bongino jabber on the radio makes my ears bleed. ---
**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2817 "2021-12-25T21:09:59Z")
I enjoy Gutfeld! ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2818 "2021-12-25T21:48:41Z")
It was pretty devastating news about Rush. I still can’t believe that their drummer, Neil Peart, is dead. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2819 "2022-01-05T11:34:21Z")
Fox News analyst Joe Concha blames Virginia Governor Northam for deaths in I95 snowstorm: > CONCHA: People have DIED as a result of this governor who just doesn’t seem to care all that much because where the hell is he? [https://twitter.com/BadFoxGraphics/status/1478524297597657088/photo/1](https://t.co/ww7nBA6Ci1) Nobody died in the I95 snowstorm. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2820 "2022-01-05T11:42:39Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Nobody died in the I95 snowstorm. Due respect: are you also one of those **[Bowling Green Massacre](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowling_Green_massacre)** deniers ? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2022, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2821 "2022-01-06T19:11:22Z")
This was posted over on the covidiot thread, but I think it also should be posted here. An anti-vax DA in CA recently died and Fox News has this take on it: > **[California Republican's COVID death mocked by pro-vaxxers on social media](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-covid-death-kelly-ernby-vaccine-mandates-mocked-social-media)** > > Kelly Ernby, a deputy district attorney in Orange County, California, who was opposed to vaccine mandates, died of complications from the coronavirus earlier this week and her death was quickly mocked by vaccine supporters on social media. Pro-vaxxers? Vaccine supporters? What’s next? Pro-science? Truth supporters? Pro-education? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2022, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2822 "2022-01-06T19:42:04Z")
Fox news headline: “VP Harris describes Capitol riot alongside infamous attacks on America that killed thousands” with images showing how she thinks that people peacefully standing outside the capitol is exactly the same as the sinking of the USS Arizona. Meanwhile as an after thought in a tiny font below: Biden addresses nation one year Capitol riot The quality of the presidents speech is clearly demonstrated by the steps they are taking to hide it from their readers. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=140) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=142)