# Is Fox News really all that bad?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2022, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2823 "2022-01-06T21:07:19Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> Pro-vaxxers? Vaccine supporters?
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> What’s next? Pro-science? Truth supporters? Pro-education?

The formula used here is more disturbing to me: mine social media for 4 or 5 mean posts, then use that as the basis of implying “Look how evil Democrats are!”

I mean, even legit news channels sometimes resort to just reeling off a bunch of random people’s tweets or whatever, but they usually say “Some people thought X, but others disagreed and thought Y”, giving examples of both.  
Once again, there is no pretense of FOX doing journalism here.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2022, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2824 "2022-01-06T21:13:47Z")

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Any sign of the House Committee’s letter to Hannity yet? It’s been a few hours since I checked.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2825 "2022-01-07T14:04:11Z")

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Social media chatter that supports Fox objectives is frequently used to generate “news” stories, as in “Dem Official In Left-Leaning State Blasted On Twitter For Insensitive Remarks”.

The tactic of painting fringe yahoos as typical of one’s political enemies is commonplace; Fox has learned how to generate ratings by turning it up to 11.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2826 "2022-01-07T14:19:44Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> Pro-education?

I think you mean Pro-Trumplication. Part of the Department of same. Get Trumplicated at Trump University today!

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2827 "2022-01-07T14:44:46Z")

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I popped in to watch for a just a few minutes yesterday. That Brian guy is really angry and just seemed full of so much hatred. Whew, so ugly to see.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2828 "2022-01-07T14:47:12Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> That Brian guy is really angry and just seemed full of so much hatred. Whew, so ugly to see.

Brian thanks you for the positive performance review. That’s exactly what Fox News is looking for in an on-air performer.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2829 "2022-01-10T21:10:08Z")

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From part-time racist sidekick to full-time insurrection propagandist:

> **[Jesse Watters is Fox News' new 7 p.m. Eastern host](https://apnews.com/article/business-arts-and-entertainment-media-anthony-fauci-news-media-8f08509aa1420e010becc3a65a77046f)**
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> NEW YORK (AP) — Fox News Channel has given its 7 p.m. Eastern hour on weeknights to opinion host Jesse Watters, whose star has risen at the network with the ratings success of “The Five,” where he is one of the regular panelists.

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2022, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2830 "2022-02-06T08:18:16Z")

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Is Fox News bad? Only if you think taking a list of the ten healthiest cities in the US, according to source, and presenting it as the ten unhealthiest, with the same source attribution. Easy mistake to make, right? And also the graphics department mixed up Irvine, CA with Irving, TX …

> <https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1490152371640360960>

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2831 "2022-04-06T01:31:53Z")

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Fox News is so fucking hard-up for anything bad about Biden, this is the current leading headline on their website. Fox News is not only “really all that bad”, they are also “pathetic as fucking shit”. I’m “captivated” by how fucking moronic that “news” site really is. Up next for them: Bat Boy!

If you watch or read Fox News, find a new source.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/bPz1UiZ.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/bPz1UiZ.png)

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2832 "2022-04-06T13:48:21Z")

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Yes, but how spicy is his pizza?

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2833 "2022-04-06T14:23:57Z")

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If you drip pizza sauce on a tan suit, it looks really bad.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2834 "2022-04-06T14:51:25Z")

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Wear this instead.  
[![](https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/c133a566-4c1d-4b63-b4f1-ef672d6ad11b_1.a143167fb9bd317ad1d4130fec4273bc.jpeg) ](https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/c133a566-4c1d-4b63-b4f1-ef672d6ad11b_1.a143167fb9bd317ad1d4130fec4273bc.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2022, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2835 "2022-04-12T14:39:12Z")

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Fox News [has a story](https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattles-transit-system-struggles-riders-refuse-pay) today on its main website about fare-dodging on Seattle’s light rail system. It includes the following eyebrow-raising claim:

“…the lone Republican on the Sound Transit Board says taxpayers who have forked over $168 billion for the system are getting ripped off.”

As far as I can ascertain, [$5.2 billion](https://seattlebusinessmag.com/article/why-sound-transits-projects-are-so-costly) has been spent on Seattle’s light rail so far. Much higher than forecast, sure, and arguably a bad use of money that could go for less sexy but effective mass transit.

Still, a far cry from “$168 billion”.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2022, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2836 "2022-04-12T18:26:25Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Still, a far cry from “$168 billion”.

I think that this is where they are getting the $168 billion number.

> **[WA state Democrats unveil $16.8 billion transportation package. Here’s what...](https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/article258187298.html)**
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> Republicans say they are disappointed that the negotiations for the 16-year package were not a bipartisan process “as in years’ past.”

So they just dropped the decimal point.

Also it’s proposed spending for the region over the next 16 years, rather than money already taken from the tax payers.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2022, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2837 "2022-04-12T18:43:17Z")

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OK, but other than getting it wrong by a factor of ten, and getting confused about the past and the future, their reputation remains intact…as an arm of the Russian propaganda machine.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2838 "2022-04-19T19:49:47Z")

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Jesse Watters admits he’s a creep.

> **[Fox News Jesse Watters admits he deflated female colleague, 25, tires](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10730313/Fox-News-Jesse-Watters-admits-deflated-25-year-old-colleagues-tires-drive-home.html)**
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> Jesse Watters revealed how he let the air out of a colleague 14 years his junior. Watters was 39 at the time and already married when he took the air out of Fox News associate producer's tires.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2839 "2022-04-19T19:54:34Z")

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Deflating a colleague and 25 tires is impressive.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2840 "2022-04-19T19:57:34Z")

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I remain stunned that guy got such a primo spot on Fox. There is no bar so low that Fox won’t crawl under it.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2022, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2841 "2022-04-19T19:59:14Z")

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Check out the comments cheering him on.

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**Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2842 "2022-04-20T01:52:35Z")

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