# Is Fox News really all that bad?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2863 "2022-10-27T15:36:58Z")

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I was thinking the same thing. Also, I am sure glad that I don’t work in that department. I’m sure the death threats are falling like rain.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2864 "2022-10-27T15:41:28Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Checking out other articles on the Fox website is seems that there is a strict rule that hyperlinks may only lead to other locations on the Fox news website. They must eliminate any possibility that a reader might find their way outside the bubble.

Granting that my sample size is very small, I have observed that as well. ISTR one occasion where a link went outside their site, but that seemed to have been anomalous.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2865 "2022-10-27T18:52:24Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> Then a number of vaccines were developed but they were all pretend, they all just give you blood clots or microchips, and scientists all around the world are in on this.

We don’t need to do that anymore since we added microchips to the horse dewormer.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2866 "2022-10-27T19:21:16Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> Then a number of vaccines were developed but they were all pretend, they all just give you blood clots or microchips, and scientists all around the world are in on this.

You forgot how they swell your testicles to enormous sizes.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2867 "2022-10-27T20:57:32Z")

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Can I also get a shout out to the most misleading graphic I’ve seen in a long time. Its on their main page without a clickable link so I had to make a screen capture

> **[Foxgas hosted at ImgBB](https://ibb.co/W5V47Tc)**
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> Image Foxgas hosted in ImgBB

The map itself is a more or less accurate representation from the [the AAA website](https://gasprices.aaa.com/) Note that although the URL is listed in the graphic its not clickable (after all we wouldn’t want people to leave Fox.)

However the scale bar while possibly technically correct if you squint real hard is so misleading as to be absolutely laughable. 90% of the bar is filled with dark red at a value of $6.172 note that no state has an average price that is remotely close to that value. The highest value on the AAA website is $5.66. The tiny pink bar is labeled as $4.178 which is the highest value a stat if that that color ever takes, and there is no room for any of the other colors that make up the majority of the states.

My guess as to how this came about is that they first put up this graphic at the height of high gas prices. At which point prices varies from around $4.00-$6.172. As prices started to decline, they kept the same color levels as on the AAA site so that you could still see that the west coast was high while the south was low (see its all the Democrats fault), and they didn’t change the range at the top (so that the average person would still think that California has $6.17 gas, but just changed the color of the scale bar to match the cutoffs. And of course obviously labeling each bar with its absolute maximum.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2868 "2022-10-27T22:47:06Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> most misleading graphic I’ve seen in a long time

there is an aphorism of sorts that speaks about _lies, damn lies, and_ a third thing

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2869 "2022-11-03T23:19:17Z")

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After years of arguing that Twitter is a public forum, Fox News is now certain that Twitter is a private platform owned by a business.

> <https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1588287307743776769?t=kwBXjpWd37UA0h2uhiGkFQ&s=19>

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2870 "2022-11-04T19:33:54Z")

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Well, as you know, we were always at war with Eurasia.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2023, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2871 "2023-10-04T19:50:10Z")

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> **[Books aren't being banned at school. But Democrats, media do defend porn for...](https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/books-arent-being-banned-school-democrats-media-defend-porn-kids-school-libraries)**
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> If discussion of these books have no place in the U.S. Senate, then maybe they also have no place in public schools.

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> _The Senate Judiciary Committee recently held a hearing into so-called “book bans.” **My message to Congress was simple: books aren’t being banned, and it’s good that they are.** _

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2872 "2023-10-13T12:08:51Z")

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Sean Hannity told Vivek Ramaswarmy, “I think people who never held public office, like you, maybe they’re not qualified to be president!”

> <https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1712669645147164934?t=aegY5nMaxa7ZwMqPAqD3Kg&s=19>

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2873 "2023-10-13T13:10:17Z")

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Hahaha! Headline should be “Hannity says that Trump wasn’t qualified to be president!”

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2874 "2023-10-13T23:06:26Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> … Vivek Ramaswarmy …

Are ytu sure you spelled “Ramasmarmy” right?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2875 "2023-10-13T23:25:21Z")

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And, according to the constitution Tan the Conman wanted chucked out, he’s not eligible now.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2876 "2023-10-14T10:57:42Z")

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Because he attacked the US or because, in his mind, he already won two elections? I’ll take either.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2877 "2023-10-14T11:15:12Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Because he attacked the US

This.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2878 "2023-11-24T06:29:56Z")

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There was a thing happened in the large city on the island, so I took a look at the “news” site,

> **[Rioters clash with police, torch car after knife attack in Dublin](https://www.foxnews.com/world/rioters-clash-police-torch-car-knife-attack-dublin)**
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> Riots erupted in Dublin, Ireland, Thursday evening after a knife attack outside a school. Five people, including three children, were injured and hospitalized.

and ended up less informed than before I went there.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2879 "2024-01-04T20:22:58Z")

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A House report comes out detailing Trump’s businesses receiving millions of dollars from foreign countries _while_ he was president and it is front page material of all news websites. Fox News? _crickets_

Meanwhile, did you hear about the $1000 check that Biden received from a relative when he wasn’t president? Pass me my smelling salts and get me to my fainting couch!

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2880 "2024-01-04T21:49:20Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> A House report comes out detailing Trump’s businesses receiving millions of dollars from foreign countries _while_ he was president and it is front page material of all news websites. Fox News? _crickets_

I checked, and it’s [on there,](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-house-democrats-million-foreign-payments-while-president) albeit with a _“House Democrats accuse Trump of raking in $7.8 million in foreign payments while president”_ headline.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2881 "2024-01-04T22:00:00Z")

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It is there now…it wasn’t when I posted. Of course, it is news item #28 down the page, only counting their “main” stories. So, they are burying it.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2026, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/2882 "2026-10-31T13:10:21Z")

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I wanted to revive this thread because of the virtual sensation that is [Tom Hoyle](https://www.thehandbasket.co/p/tom-hoyle-jonestown-trump-rally-fox-news-viral-clip). The North Carolina Trump hater went with ideas to troll a Trump rally and found a Fox News reporter’s microphone in his face and gave him an audience much larger than the [not filled to capacity arena](https://x.com/mychaelschnell/status/2115855933125296258?s=20).

My point was the reaction of the reporter. He acted like someone who was duped by a Howard Stern fan yelling “Baba Booey” and quickly moved past him, because “maybe this is not a Trump supporter.”

That’s not what an impartial reporter should do.

Tom Hoyle traveled to the event even though he wasn’t a Trump supporter, went through a security screening. He wasn’t there to attack anyone. He was actually thrown out by the Secret Service even though he didn’t indicate that he was a threat to Trump.

All of that was news that an actual media outlet would be thrilled to get to cover, because that was way more interesting than anything else that happened at that rally.

Instead, in what was completely unsurprising to everyone who participated in this thread over the years, they acted like a PR firm doing damage control for a prized client when they moved past him to find a Trump supporter instead.

For years in this thread we all said that Fox News was terrible for their hypocrisy and bias. This is just the latest evidence that hasn’t changed a bit.

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