# Is Fox News really all that bad? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 46
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/901 "2015-04-03T19:17:35Z")
Well, that story has been pushed down now, to make room for all kinds of _In Search Of_-type question headlines. You know, they aren’t actually _saying_ we’re all going to die as a result of the Iran deal, they’re just asking the questions: Giant headline: "Blink? Did Iran get the better of the US at nuclear poker table? Slightly smaller but still main headlines: “US Wimpout on Iran Deal?” “Is Iran Working With North Korea on Nukes?” ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/902 "2015-05-04T07:42:29Z")
> [@](#): > > Fox News, with nothing at all to corroborate, invited an anonymous source to tell a story about Freddie Gray that if true would possibly exonerate the officers involved in his death. > > The source, who speaks through a voice-scrambler and appears in a blacked out studio, is identified only as “Mike.” He is apparently a police officer, and he tells Meghan Kelly that Gray was “a great witness for us.” > > The issue with the interview from any reasonable standpoint is that the witness, who says he spoke with two of the officers since the incident, claims that Freddie frequently “put on a show” to get arrested so he could snitch on people, then explains why officers were forced to pursue him, and it was for their own safety because of Freddie’s violent behavior that he wasn’t seatbelted into the van. > > Fox News takes an uncorroborated story from an anonymous source and tries to sell it as truth. Not to mention the entire tale is hearsay from someone who was definitely not involved in the incident. I call shenanigans. > > If Freddie Gray were working with police it would have been the FIRST fact about the case released. Why would police allow someone so valuable to be harmed? > > Halfway through the interview the subject changes from the incident to the “thugs” who rioted in Baltimore, the State’s Attorney who is hanging cops out to dry, and all of the reasons why the police are victims in all of this. > > In other words, everything 68-year-old white men want to hear about Baltimore. > > [If You Only News](http://www.ifyouonlynews.com/videos/watch-fox-news-claims-freddie-gray-worked-for-police-arrest-was-all-an-act-video/) I am aware that they have a narrative to sell, but when it is this transparently nothing but snake oil, you really can’t help but imagine their new meetings involve people cartoonishly twiddling evil moustaches while laughing manically… ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/903 "2015-05-04T07:55:37Z")
Ah yes, of course. Freddie Gray was a valuable informant. Which is why the cops broke his neck. And here you thought “snitches get stitches” was just a gang thang, but cops have [effics](http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/qikt30/stop-snitchin-) too ! ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/904 "2015-07-14T12:12:22Z")
Just did a quick survey of the Cable News channels. Every single one (CNN, MSNBC, Al-Jazeera, BBC) have a red “Breaking News” banner trumpeting the just completed nuclear arms treaty with Iran. They are all interviewing world leaders (CNN has Lindsay Graham on, who is hammering it as a huge mistake). Fox News? No mention of it at all. In fact, when I checked their channel, they were introducing the new Miss USA!, a contest ignored by almost everyone in the country but is a Donald Trump property, so they were throwing a bone to him rather than covering one of the most significant treaties enacted in the last 30 years. Be prepared to discuss Miss Oklahoma today around the water cooler. You might want to bring up the Iran treaty, because your Fox News watching friends won’t know a thing about it. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/905 "2015-07-14T12:28:59Z")
Still no coverage on Fox News, but now they have a segment on showing dads how to comb their girl’s hair. ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/906 "2015-07-14T12:31:40Z")
Isn’t it also a success for the First Kenyan’s policy towards Iran, which Fox wouldn’t be too keen on acknowledging … ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/907 "2015-07-14T12:55:02Z")
Which is kinda odd, really. There had been vigorous debate on whether this was a mere disaster or a catastrophe of Biblical proportions. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/908 "2015-07-14T13:14:40Z")
You think Roger Ailes is awake yet? It’s not news until he staggers in around noon and says it’s news. Just a general question – has any president ever addressed the nation at 7 am? I can’t recall one this early. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/909 "2015-07-14T14:10:22Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > You think Roger Ailes is awake yet? It’s not news until he staggers in around noon and says it’s news. > > Just a general question – has any president ever addressed the nation at 7 am? I can’t recall one this early. He must’ve just got up. The first banner on FOX I saw is Iran Agreement Sparks Worries of Nuclear Arms Race in Mideast. Followed by : Netanyahu says Iran Deal Mistake of Historic Proportions ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/910 "2015-07-14T22:46:36Z")
Fox news dot com leads with: “WIN FOR PUTIN? Iran nuke deal fuels arms race, helps Russia, officials say” ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/911 "2015-07-15T19:39:58Z")
This is from [a Fox News _Producer_:](http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/fox-producer-people-love-trump-because-he-wont-let-illegal-aliens-come-and-murder-our-women/) > [@](#): > > Fox News producer Jesse Watters on Wednesday welcomed a potential Donald Trump presidency, saying that the billionaire “is not going to let illegal aliens come to the country and murder our women.” ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/912 "2015-07-15T22:19:36Z")
"‘SHOULD KNOW BETTER’: Obama defends Iran nuke deal, scolds critics PRESIDENT OBAMA staunchly defends the newly struck Iran nuclear deal, using a press conference to lecture critics and assembled media on the agreement — even admonishing a reporter who questioned his resolve on US prisoners left behind that ‘you should know better.’ " Yup, sounds like a very even handed, legitimate newsource type headline. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/913 "2015-07-16T00:02:00Z")
Obama replied to Major Garrett (is that a real fucking name?) that he should know better than to ask if Obama was “content” that American prisoners in Iran weren’t bargained for. Nice out of context, misleading headlines. Yes, Fox “news” is really all that bad. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/914 "2015-07-16T04:36:31Z")
And Obama gave two very good answers! If we tied the prisoners to the arms deal, then that rewards countries for taking hostages. And if the two issues were linked, and Obama had to say, “No deal” to the nuclear weapons agreement, it would give the appearance of walking away from the fate of the prisoners. The demands by the right wing (and religious hate-radio types) for this linkage were incredibly ignorant, and extremely shitty negotiating strategy. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/915 "2015-07-16T04:50:59Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > This is from [a Fox News _Producer_:](http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/fox-producer-people-love-trump-because-he-wont-let-illegal-aliens-come-and-murder-our-women/) Is he concerned about those ferocious foreigners who come into our midst to cut the throats of our sons and wives ? Because if so, he’s two days late, Bastille Day was tuesday. And anyway, I’m not sure watering our furroughs with their impure blood is FDA approved. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/916 "2015-07-16T13:24:38Z")
There are US prisoners in Iran still? ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/917 "2015-07-16T15:00:30Z")
[Yes](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/world/wp/2015/07/14/iran-nuclear-deal-no-breakthrough-for-post-journalist-held-in-tehran/) (WaPo link): > [@](#): > > The fate of several Americans held in Iran, including a Washington Post journalist detained last July, remains separate from the historic nuclear deal announced Tuesday, even after U.S. officials repeatedly raised the issue with Tehran. ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/918 "2015-07-16T19:14:49Z")
Another day, another Fox deception… Megyn Kelly didn’t let a little thing like integrity stand in the way of her vicious grandstanding against **Planned Parenthood** after a deceptively edited video falsely seemed to portray the organization \*\* selling fetus’ body parts.\*\* As documented on Media Matters, the video for public consumption is **highly edited** and the full version demonstrates that there was **nothing illegal** discussed. The version being pimped by Fox doesn’t include comments, from the Planned Parenthood employee, about how the tissue samples are used for medical research (the polio vaccine was made with fetal tissue) and obtained with the patient’s consent. “Late in the day, the Live Action-offshoot group released a longer video. It shows that the Planned Parenthood staffer was talking in the \*\* context of stem cell research\*\*, and was talking about **standard reimbursement rates for costs associated with tissue donation** — all of which was **edited to change the meaning**.” > **[Watch ‘Straight News Anchor’ Megyn Kelly’s Vicious, Dishonest Attack On...](https://www.newshounds.us/watch_straight_news_anchor_megyn_kelly_s_vicious_dishonest_attack_on_planned_parenthood_071615)** ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2015, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/919 "2015-07-17T14:20:08Z")
> [@](#): > > As documented on Media Matters, the video for public consumption is highly edited and the full version demonstrates that there was \*\*nothing illegal \*\*discussed. Emphasis in original. Could I get a cite where Fox claimed it was illegal? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2015, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/920 "2015-07-17T15:07:13Z")
Truth be told, even if Fox’s description was accurate, I find myself rather less than shocked. Stem cell research is a hugely promising field and PP has a price list reflecting their costs. Big deal. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=45) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=47)