# Is Fox News really all that bad? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 60
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1181 "2016-08-11T04:45:31Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > I just posted in the Stupid Ideas thread about the guy who won the GOP primary for the congressional district that Michelle Bachman used to represent. THIS is tolerance: > > "Uh, you know if you don’t want to own a slave, don’t. But don’t tell other people they can’t.” > > ['Unelectable' candidate defends slavery and mocks women – but still wins GOP race in Minnesota](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/unelectable-candidate-defends-slavery-and-mocks-women-but-still-wins-gop-race-in-minnesota/) I wonder if he’s as tolerant of abortion. Just kidding. I don’t. ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1182 "2016-08-15T03:00:34Z")
[Video proves Clinton suffering seizures? Not so, I was there](http://bigstory.ap.org/article/2c8dbf3a7ed44e40be52fade3cfe2900/video-proves-clinton-suffering-seizures-not-so-i-was-there) > [@](#): > > Perhaps eager to avoid answering or maybe just taken aback by our volume, Clinton responded with an exaggerated motion, shaking her head vigorously for a few seconds. Video of the moment shows me holding out my recorder in front of her, laughing and stepping back in surprise. After the exchange, she took a few more photos, exited the shop and greeted supporters waiting outside. > The conservative **Fox News host Sean Hannity** opened a 6-minute Thursday night segment titled “ **Hillary’s Health** ” by saying, “as speculation swirls about Hillary Clinton’s health,” citing a headline from the right-wing news site Drudge Report. > Hannity **repeatedly played the muffin shop footage** , describing what Clinton was doing as “this sort of twitching thing that she does in front of reporters that was really bad” and then as “a violent, violent, repetitive jerking of the head.” > Seemingly as “proof” that something was amiss with Clinton, Hannity exclaimed: “Watch the reporter, like, pull back as she — the reporter got scared. And she keeps doing it. What is that?” > **Fox News never contacted me** to ask that question. For the record, I wasn’t scared for a moment. [CNN’s Media Critic Blasts Hannity For Spreading "Conspiracy Theories About Hillary Clinton’s Health](https://mediamatters.org/video/2016/08/14/watch-cnns-media-critic-blast-hannity-spreading-conspiracy-theories-about-hillary-clintons-health/212388) > [@](#): > > STELTER: Let me be clear. That was reckless speculation by Sean Hannity. All of it. This whole “Clinton is secretly sick” thing has been promoted by conservative news sites for years. There’s a grain of truth to the idea about her health because she did have a health scare in 2012. It was well-reported at the time. But her doctors say she is now physically fit to be president. There is no doubt about that. > > But **Hannity is not interested in the truth** about Clinton’s health. If he was, **he could have interviewed people** who were actually there during the episodes that he’s exploiting. Let’s take the one at the very end. Hannity said Clinton was violently uncontrollably jerking her head. He said the reporter got scared. Sean, **why not go ask the reporter**? Go ask the reporter. > > The AP’s Lisa Lerer wrote about this. She says Fox never contacted her and said she was never scared. Here’s what she says really happened that day. Reporters were asking Clinton about a meeting with Elizabeth Warren. Lots of questions, lots of questions to ask. So Lerer writes, “Perhaps eager to avoid answering or maybe just taken aback by our volume, Clinton responded with an exaggerated motion, shaking her head vigorously for a few seconds.” Look, conspiracy theories are so much more interesting than the truth. But the last time I checked, Fox still has the word “News” in its name. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1183 "2016-08-23T17:50:42Z")
[New lawsuit: “Fox News masquerades as a defender of traditional family values, but behind the scenes, it operates like a sex-fueled, Playboy Mansion-like cult, steeped in intimidation, indecency and misogyny”](http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2016/08/23/fox_news_host_andrea_tantaros_files_suit_accusing_roger_ailes_of_sexual.html) ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1184 "2016-08-23T18:30:19Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [New lawsuit: “Fox News masquerades as a defender of traditional family values, but behind the scenes, it operates like a sex-fueled, Playboy Mansion-like cult, steeped in intimidation, indecency and misogyny”](http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2016/08/23/fox_news_host_andrea_tantaros_files_suit_accusing_roger_ailes_of_sexual.html) This can’t possibly be true, because there is no mention of any of these lawsuits on [foxnews.com](http://foxnews.com). ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1185 "2016-08-23T19:15:56Z")
The suit says this about Bill O’Reilly: > [@](#): > > [C]ommencing in February 2016, Bill O’Reilly (“O’Reilly”), whom Tantaros had considered to be a good friend and a person from whom she sought career guidance, started sexually harassing her by, inter alia, (a) asking her to come to stay with him on Long Island where it would be “very private,” and (b) telling her on more than one occasion that he could “see [her] as a wild girl,” and that he believed that she had a “wild side.” Fox News did take one action: plainly because of O’Reilly’s rumored prior sexual harassment issues and in recognition of Tantaros’s complaints, Brandi informed Cane that Tantaros would no longer be appearing on O’Reilly’s Fox News show, The O’Reilly Factor.” > **[Andrea Tantaros Sues Fox News, Ensnares Bill O’Reilly, Scott Brown, and Others](https://www.thedailybeast.com/andrea-tantaros-sues-fox-news-ensnares-bill-oreilly-scott-brown-and-others)** > > The latest legal salvo against the TV network alleges a culture of sexual harassment that reached far outside Roger Ailes’s office. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1186 "2016-08-23T19:34:56Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > The suit says this about Bill O’Reilly: Uh oh, another falafel-fest. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1187 "2016-09-06T13:39:35Z")
FOX News settles with Gretchen Carslon for $20,000,000. > **[BREAKING: Fox Settles with Gretchen Carlson for $20 Million—and Is Expected...](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/09/fox-news-settles-with-gretchen-carlson-for-20-million)** > > Act II of the Ailes saga may have just begun. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1188 "2016-09-06T13:45:07Z")
Now it looks as if Greta Van Susteren is out, possibly immediately, at Fox News. > ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1189 "2016-09-06T14:17:36Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Now it looks as if Greta Van Susteren is out, possibly immediately, at Fox News. > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/773153501614669824) Bet she was a bad lay ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1190 "2016-09-06T14:22:06Z")
The thinking is she got royally pissed when the news of Carlson’s settlement reached her. Pure speculation on my part has it that she likely settled for far, far less than Carlson. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1191 "2016-09-06T14:54:14Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > Bet she was a bad lay Little bit tacky, man. Just a little bit. > [@JohnT](#): > > The thinking is she got royally pissed when the news of Carlson’s settlement reached her. > > Pure speculation on my part has it that she likely settled for far, far less than Carlson. Wouldn’t surprise me at all. I doubt she’d escaped Ailes’ attention, frankly. But who will tell us how wonderful Sarah Palin is now? ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1192 "2016-09-06T15:32:20Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > The thinking is she got royally pissed when the news of Carlson’s settlement reached her. > > Pure speculation on my part has it that she likely settled for far, far less than Carlson. And yet, Carlson only got half as much as Ailes. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1193 "2016-09-06T21:07:40Z")
My question is where does someone like Greta Van Susteren find work now? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1194 "2016-09-06T21:14:12Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > My question is where does someone like Greta Van Susteren find work now? My answer is who cares? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1195 "2016-09-06T21:32:05Z")
Lobbying. Wasn’t she a lawyer? That’s why she came to the fore, if I believe, because of her legal analysis during the OJ case. Had a massive facelift once she decided to make TV her full time gig. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1196 "2016-09-06T21:36:56Z")
I I think I may have found the problem here. She had the plastic surgery right before she joined Fox News. Roger Ailes literally **made her change her face** as a condition to be hired to join his network. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1197 "2016-09-28T22:37:43Z")
[Megyn Kelly isn’t even trying to pretend that she has any respect for Sean Hannity any more.](http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/09/27/megyn-kelly-attacks-sean-hannity-all-hell-has-broken-loose-at-fox-news-images/) ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1198 "2016-09-29T02:35:05Z")
They have an article right now about how Trump wasn’t lying about being opposed to the Iraq War. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1199 "2016-09-29T13:20:42Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Megyn Kelly isn’t even trying to pretend that she has any respect for Sean Hannity any more.](http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/09/27/megyn-kelly-attacks-sean-hannity-all-hell-has-broken-loose-at-fox-news-images/) That’s hilarious. For those who didn’t bother to click on the link, here’s the quote from Kelly: “We’ve got Trump speaking to our own Sean Hannity. We’ll see whether he speaks to the journalists in this room after that interview.” ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1200 "2016-09-29T14:07:05Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > That’s hilarious. For those who didn’t bother to click on the link, here’s the quote from Kelly: “We’ve got Trump speaking to our own Sean Hannity. We’ll see whether he speaks to the journalists in this room after that interview.” Depends on how she said it, which word she put the emphasis on. These two are very different: We’ll see whether he speaks to the JOURNALISTS in this room after that interview. We’ll see whether he speaks to the journalists in THIS room after that interview. Is there a recording? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=59) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=61)