# Is Fox News really all that bad? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 67
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1321 "2016-12-31T14:58:24Z")
> [@Donpeyote](#): > > David Duke was an Elected US Congresscritter Van Jones was an ousted Socialist Cabinet member , choose your poison … Is this a rhetorical question? Because, if not, I choose Van Jones. As should anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1322 "2016-12-31T16:22:19Z")
> [@Donpeyote](#): > > David Duke was an Elected US Congresscritter Van Jones was an ousted Socialist Cabinet member , choose your poison … What Cabinet position did Jones hold? ---
**Author:** ![Donpeyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Donpeyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donpeyote)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1323 "2016-12-31T18:11:30Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Is this a rhetorical question? Because, if not, I choose Van Jones. As should anyone. The Folks of Metairie and surrounding Counties thought otherwise and sent him to Congress where he served his term , Van Jones was booted from the Obama Administration … ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1324 "2016-12-31T18:25:11Z")
> [@Donpeyote](#): > > David Duke was an Elected US Congresscritter Van Jones was an ousted Socialist Cabinet member , choose your poison … Aside from the fact that you don’t appear to know what a cabinet member is, you appear to think being a socialist is as bad as being a white supremacist fucktard. Is that accurate? ---
**Author:** ![Donpeyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Donpeyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donpeyote)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1325 "2016-12-31T18:29:48Z")
Van Jones was Socialist fucktard & a member of the Obama regime who was ousted , David Duke was an elected Congressman who served out his entire term in congress . ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1326 "2016-12-31T18:34:35Z")
> [@Donpeyote](#): > > Van Jones was Socialist fucktard & a member of the Obama regime who was ousted , David Duke was an elected Congressman who served out his entire term in congress . David Duke was never a US Congressman. ---
**Author:** ![Donpeyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Donpeyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donpeyote)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1327 "2016-12-31T20:23:59Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > David Duke was never a US Congressman. Now I see how my posts (Twaddle) must seem to you folks .😃 ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1328 "2016-12-31T20:28:58Z")
> [@Donpeyote](#): > > Now I see how my posts (Twaddle) must seem to you folks .😃 Can’t tell if you’re admitting you’re wrong (Duke was, shamefully, elected to the Louisiana State House of Representatives for a single term, but never to the US Congress) or if you’re doubling down. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1329 "2016-12-31T20:38:14Z")
> [@Donpeyote](#): > > Van Jones was Socialist fucktard & a member of the Obama regime who was ousted , David Duke was an elected Congressman who served out his entire term in congress . Van Jones is not a socialist, and as a Yale Law grad is not a “fucktard” and there is no such thing as the Obama regime, and he resigned and thus was not ousted. David Duke was never elected to Congress, and therefore didn’t serve his entire term. A single sentence manages to have six errors in it. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1330 "2017-01-01T13:31:43Z")
At this point I’m wondering who **Donpeyote** considers to be to his right politically, because at the moment the list appears to be limited to Attila the Hun and Darkseid. Meanwhile, for **Calico Jack** ’s benefit, [a monologue about FoxNews’ differentiation between “news” and “opinion” by that nice Mr Stewart](http://www.cc.com/video-clips/1lvtqx/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-for-fox-sake-). > [@Jon Stewart in 2009](#): > > For the audience here, let me help you out–because it does get confusing. The three hours you spend in the morning with “Fox & Friends”: not news. Your 4 o’clock to 5 o’clock post-tea and crumpets Neil Cavuto break: not news. The 5 o’clock to 6 o’clock emotional whirlwind and national group therapy session that is Glenn Beck: not even close to news. > > O’Reilly, Hannity, van Susteren-en-en-en: not news. This is according to Fox News. Those people–the ones featured in promos about how fair and balanced Fox News is–are not news. These people–otherwise known as the only people you ever think of when you think of Fox News–are not news. They are Fox ‘opinutainment.’ Clear? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1331 "2017-01-01T15:32:36Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Van Jones is not a socialist, and as a Yale Law grad is not a “fucktard” and there is no such thing as the Obama regime, and he resigned and thus was not ousted. David Duke was never elected to Congress, and therefore didn’t serve his entire term. > > A single sentence manages to have six errors in it. Yeah, but _aside_ from all that, it’s a good argument! ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1332 "2017-02-03T18:44:34Z")
The monthly jobs report came out today and it was better than expected. Over 200K jobs added, although the unemployment rate ticked up. 01%. In the past, Fox has criticized similar numbers as not being as good as they appeared. But today they thought the “first jobs report of the Trump administration” was yuuuge. Amazing what the man has accomplished in two weeks. Well, really more like -2 weeks, since the numbers were collected prior to the inauguration. > **[Watch Fox & Friends Accidentally Praise Obama's Last Jobs Report](https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-friends/watch-fox-friends-accidentally-praise-obamas-last-jobs-report)** ---
**Author:** ![Jefferson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8491ac/32.png) [@Jefferson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jefferson)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1333 "2017-02-03T19:14:02Z")
The O’Reilly Factor is good, particularly the talking points at the beginning - he’s especially good on black issues, daring to go where few others dare. Tucker Carlson, now having taken over from Megyn Kelly, is a good watch, particularly his big opening, often heated, interview. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1334 "2017-02-03T19:18:44Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > The monthly jobs report came out today and it was better than expected. Over 200K jobs added, although the unemployment rate ticked up. 01%. In the past, Fox has criticized similar numbers as not being as good as they appeared. But today they thought the “first jobs report of the Trump administration” was yuuuge. Amazing what the man has accomplished in two weeks. Well, really more like -2 weeks, since the numbers were collected prior to the inauguration. > > [http://mediamatters.org/blog/2017/02/03/watch-fox-friends-accidentally-praise-obamas-last-jobs-report/215229](http://mediamatters.org/blog/2017/02/03/watch-fox-friends-accidentally-praise-obamas-last-jobs-report/215229) And if you don’t believe the history on this, I’ve popped in many months over the past year of this thread to chronicle Foxnews ignoring the jobs data in the past. For some unknown reason, this month it was important enough to report on. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1335 "2017-02-03T19:19:07Z")
Jefferson: You mean black like African-American black? O’Reilly? He’s good with that? ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1336 "2017-02-03T19:23:29Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > The monthly jobs report came out today and it was better than expected. Over 200K jobs added, although the unemployment rate ticked up. 01%. In the past, Fox has criticized similar numbers as not being as good as they appeared. But today they thought the “first jobs report of the Trump administration” was yuuuge. Amazing what the man has accomplished in two weeks. Well, really more like -2 weeks, since the numbers were collected prior to the inauguration. > > [http://mediamatters.org/blog/2017/02/03/watch-fox-friends-accidentally-praise-obamas-last-jobs-report/215229](http://mediamatters.org/blog/2017/02/03/watch-fox-friends-accidentally-praise-obamas-last-jobs-report/215229) That’s a pretty good distillation of why Fox News is such a piece of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1337 "2017-02-03T19:48:45Z")
O’Reilly is going to interview Trump on Fox News just before the Super Bowl on Fox TV. ---
**Author:** ![Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pearl_Clutching_Provocateur)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1338 "2017-02-03T20:11:05Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > That’s a pretty good distillation of why Fox News is such a piece of shit. Themes accurate jobs report was the renunciation of Obama’s dismal economy at the ballot box. Jobs at Uber weren’t cutting it. ---
**Author:** ![Jefferson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8491ac/32.png) [@Jefferson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jefferson)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1339 "2017-02-03T20:18:58Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Jefferson: You mean black like African-American black? O’Reilly? He’s good with that? Yeah. That’s the one. Have you watched any? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1340 "2017-02-03T20:56:28Z")
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