# Is Fox News really all that bad?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1401 "2017-04-24T17:55:41Z")

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Over the weekend, O’Reilly’s timeslot replacement Sean Hannity was accused of sexual harassment, but the woman is now walking back her accusations.

> **[Fox News Guest Says Sean Hannity Invited Her Twice To His Hotel](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/sean-hannity-sex-harassment_n_58fd5c6ee4b00fa7de153d2b)**
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> Debbie Schlussel says when she refused, she wasn't invited back on his show.

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**Author:** ![Gordon\_Urquhart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/db5fbb/32.png) [@Gordon\_Urquhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gordon_Urquhart)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1402 "2017-04-26T13:42:27Z")

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O’Reilly’s protege, Jesse Watters, made an incredibly crude comment about Ivanka Trump just moments after complaining about how, when the German “left” is given an opportunity to respect women, “they boo and hiss.” Also, “the Europeans are supposed to be so sophisticated and well-mannered”:

The misogynistic culture is systemic at Fox News; paying out tens of millions of dollars in lawsuits and golden parachutes apparently isn't helping.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1403 "2017-04-26T19:54:48Z")

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Watters walked that comment back, saying he really meant that she was “like a smooth jazz radio DJ.” Right.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1404 "2017-04-27T03:48:32Z")

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Mentioned by me in another thread, but this deserves to be posted here too:

Fox News anchor Kelly Wright, shows that FOX is really that bad. Not only needing a cleanup of the misogyny isle, but also the racist, and the anti science one.

> **[Fox News, Where Climate Denial, Misogny, and Racism Rule](https://thinc.blog/2017/04/26/fox-news-where-climate-denial-misogny-and-racism-rule/)**
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> I’ve said it a thousand times. Like greenhouse gases, hate is a long lived pollutant. Climate denial and racism go together like peas and carrots. Obviously, recent events demonstrate that mi…

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> Fox News anchor Kelly Wright on Wednesday held an emotional press conference in which he condemned the network’s “systemic and institutional racial bias.”
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> While Wright said that he enjoyed working at Fox and admired many of the people working there, he said that he could no longer justify remaining silent as many of his black colleagues were suing the network for racial discrimination.
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> Wright then said that some people have told him that he shouldn’t ever worry about being fired from Fox because the network needed him to show the public that it isn’t a racist network.

Of notice are also the early links in that Climate Crocks article that point to other examples of the conservative deplorables that mix bigotry and climate change denial. For some reason bigotry also pops up a lot among extremists from the right that are also climate change deniers.

Even I on this message board has had encounters with very conservative posters that mixed those items that were also mentioned by the OP. There is a lot of cleanups that conservatives need to do among their ranks; unless what is going on is that they prefer power more than to see America progress.

It is clear to me that smart conservatives and many moderate Republicans are willing to risk with their inaction a bigger fall for the party than the Republicans had after supporting prohibition for so many years and electing a president that also did not have much political experience back in the 30’s.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1405 "2017-04-27T17:38:44Z")

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After making a dick joke about Ivanka Trump, Fox News asshole Jesse Waters has announced he is taking a vacation.

Maybe he can get some sightseeing recommendations from Bill O’Reilly.

> **[Fox Host Jesse Watters Goes On Sudden Vacation After Ivanka Trump Comment](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jesse-watters-vacation-after-ivanka-comment?)**
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> Following criticism for a comment he made about Ivanka Trump on Tuesday night, Fox Host Jesse Watters announced Wednesday night that he will be on vacation for the rest of the week and the weekend.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1406 "2017-04-29T02:44:48Z")

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Noted criminal justice expert Fabio explains to Tucker Carlson what’s wrong with California.

> <https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/858122058286342144/video/1>

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1407 "2017-04-29T04:04:23Z")

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A Fox [insider](http://www.mediaite.com/online/fox-news-insider-growing-and-troubling-realization-that-james-murdoch-is-in-charge/) fears that James Murdoch is taking over.

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> Employees are nervous about the future, with an understandable fear that James and company will take out the remaining conservatives at the channel, one by one, with the same surgical precision with which they took out Ailes and O’Reilly. Gradually, the channel will look like its competitors.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1408 "2017-04-29T06:44:10Z")

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A lawsuit from former host Andrea Tantaros accuses Fox News group of hacking, spying, and stalking her.

> **[Lawsuit: Fox News group hacked, surveilled, and stalked ex-host Andrea Tantaros](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/04/former-fox-news-host-claims-company-hacked-her-stalked-her-with-sock-puppets/)**
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> Lawsuit: After a sexual harassment claim, Fox News planted spyware on ex-host's computer.

Well, that points to Fox on being not only bad, but evil too.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2017, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1409 "2017-04-30T14:42:49Z")

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This series of bullshit tweets that only convinces people dumb enough to watch Fox in the first place. Unfortunately there are tens of millions of them in the US.

> **[Social media users rip Fox graphic on economy under Trump, Obama](https://thehill.com/homenews/media/331246-fox-news-graphics-compare-economy-under-trump-obama-without-context/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark)**
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> Fox News posted a series of graphics Saturday on Twitter comparing the economic records after the first 100 days of the past four presidents, but social media users quickly pointed out missing cont…

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1410 "2017-04-30T16:41:20Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> This series of bullshit tweets that only convinces people dumb enough to watch Fox in the first place. Unfortunately there are tens of millions of them in the US.
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> [http://thehill.com/homenews/media/331246-fox-news-graphics-compare-economy-under-trump-obama-without-context?utm\_source=fark&utm\_medium=website&utm\_content=link&ICID=ref\_fark](http://thehill.com/homenews/media/331246-fox-news-graphics-compare-economy-under-trump-obama-without-context?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark)

Those are great graphics. It’s just that they demonstrate exactly the opposite of what Fox seems to want to imply.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2017, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1411 "2017-04-30T18:46:46Z")

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When liberals discuss right wing media or political figures there’s often a debate on whether they’re true believers or they’re just cynically manipulating the rubes. At least in this case it seems like Fox is closer to the true believer side.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2017, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1412 "2017-04-30T20:08:09Z")

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> When liberals discuss…

Stopped reading there.  
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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1413 "2017-05-01T01:03:05Z")

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Fox News tweets out 100 day comparisons of Trump and Obama that completely lack context. Three internet provides it.

> **[Social media users rip Fox graphic on economy under Trump, Obama](https://thehill.com/homenews/media/331246-fox-news-graphics-compare-economy-under-trump-obama-without-context/)**
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> Fox News posted a series of graphics Saturday on Twitter comparing the economic records after the first 100 days of the past four presidents, but social media users quickly pointed out missing cont…

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1414 "2017-05-01T19:27:17Z")

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[Bill Shine resigns.](https://www.yahoo.com/tv/bill-shine-fox-news-suzanne-scott-becomes-president-185104858.html)

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1415 "2017-05-01T20:56:40Z")

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> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#):
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> Stopped reading there.

Why?

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1416 "2017-05-09T22:58:38Z")

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Fox headline “James Comey Resigns.”

Fuck you, you traitorous cowards.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1417 "2017-05-09T23:02:51Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Fox headline “James Comey Resigns.”
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> Fuck you, you traitorous cowards.

On TV? The website says that Trump fired Comey.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1418 "2017-05-09T23:03:50Z")

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They’re so fucked up! They don’t even care if their headline is opposite EVERYONE else’s, because they know that most of the people who get their news at Faux don’t look anywhere else.

ETA: Running Coach, thanks for looking at the website so no one else had to.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1419 "2017-05-09T23:07:22Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> On TV? The website says that Trump fired Comey.

[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_a0eZOUwAASRRs.jpg:large) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_a0eZOUwAASRRs.jpg:large)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1420 "2017-05-09T23:18:40Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C\_a0eZOUwAASRRs.jpg:large](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_a0eZOUwAASRRs.jpg:large)

Thanks.  
Interesting the website and channel aren’t coordinated.

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