# Is Fox News really all that bad? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 72
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1421 "2017-05-09T23:21:40Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Thanks. > Interesting the website and channel aren’t coordinated. Too busy coordinating with Russian propaganda maybe? [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_a8kK0UQAANO6n.jpg) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_a8kK0UQAANO6n.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1422 "2017-05-11T05:16:14Z")
[Slate has a decent article](http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/05/10/fox_news_is_covering_james_comey_s_firing_from_an_alternate_reality.html) on just how bad FOX’s coverage of the Comey scandal has been. > [@](#): > > Fanatical as that take might sound, Hannity wasn’t even the first Fox News talker to advance it. Andrew Napolitano suggested on Martha MacCallum’s 7 p.m. show that Comey may have been fired so that Clinton could be “indicted for espionage.” And Jesse Watters on The Five at 9 p.m. called Comey “corrupt” for, among other things, not pursuing the “Clinton Foundation scandals.” > > Even the network’s newsier shows found ways to muddle the story beyond recognition Tuesday night. Bret Baier spent more than 20 minutes discussing the “controversial” firing without bothering to explain what made it controversial: the fact that Trump had publicly backed Comey until he reportedly grew angry over the director’s recent handling of the Russia investigation. Baier alluded to questions about the “timing” of Comey’s dismissal, but did not address what those questions were until guest Charles Krauthammer brought them up unbidden later in the show. And when a former FBI assistant director seemed to imply that he thought Trump was lying in Comey’s dismissal letter—specifically, that Comey didn’t really tell him three times that he wasn’t under investigation—Baier declined to follow up, ending the interview for a commercial break. > > Fox News has always filtered the day’s events through a different lens than that of other major media outlets. But on this night, when the nation’s political press was frantically pursuing a story about Trump’s real motivations and drawing comparisons to Watergate, it was as though Fox News was covering an alternate reality—one in which Comey’s firing was obviously justified, long overdue, and a richly deserved comeuppance for his failure to supply the evidence needed to put Hillary Clinton behind bars, where she belongs. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1423 "2017-05-16T12:14:38Z")
Last night, while most media organizations were doing wall to wall coverage of Trump’s disclosure of classified information to the Russians, Fox barely mentioned it. Instead, Fox covered topics such as comments made by Miss USA, something called “Romper for Men”, a speech by Michelle Obama, and (wait for it… wait for it…) Hillary Clinton’s emails. [https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2017/05/15/fox-news-downplayed-trump-revealing-classified-info-focused-these-other-stories-instead/216468THE](https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2017/05/15/fox-news-downplayed-trump-revealing-classified-info-focused-these-other-stories-instead/216468THE) ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1424 "2017-05-16T13:17:02Z")
What the…? “Trump - D” !!! Just kidding. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1425 "2017-05-16T21:06:03Z")
Fox is now spreading conspiracy theories about Clinton having Seth Rich assassinated. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1426 "2017-05-16T21:06:33Z")
Cite? Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1427 "2017-05-16T21:45:35Z")
Not linking to Fox because they’re worse than Al Qa:eda, but here: [Fox Pushes WikiLeaks Murder Conspiracy From Man Who Warned Of Armed Lesbian Pedophiles | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fox-news-conspiracy-theory-wikileaks-seth-rich_us_591b493ee4b07d5f6ba6d027) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1428 "2017-05-16T21:49:04Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Not linking to Fox because they’re worse than Al Qa:eda, but here: [Fox Pushes WikiLeaks Murder Conspiracy From Man Who Warned Of Armed Lesbian Pedophiles | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fox-news-conspiracy-theory-wikileaks-seth-rich_us_591b493ee4b07d5f6ba6d027) No, that’s perfectly fine, thank you! ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1429 "2017-05-17T03:01:38Z")
Fox News has gone back to being amusing to watch. Last few times I’ve watched they’re mentioning virtually no news at all. Today’s headline is the same as yesterday’s: The lying media ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1430 "2017-05-17T05:05:48Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > Today’s headline is the same as yesterday’s: The lying media Which is pretty meta, when you think about it. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1431 "2017-05-17T07:01:34Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Which is pretty meta, when you think about it. It certainly shows more self-awareness than I thought Fox would let on. Oh wait, they mean _other_ media? [Alright then](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M). ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1432 "2017-05-17T14:41:49Z")
The more I think about the Seth Rich thing the angrier I get. There are multiple stories that are worse than anything that happened under Obama, including the president trying to undermine the justice department, and Fox reports on internet conspiracy theories. That’s dictator’s state controlled media shit. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1433 "2017-05-17T15:04:59Z")
OK, not terribleness per se but had to share this one. [This](https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/864646074958565376/photo/1) is the pot calling the kettle a race-baiting nigger-loving coon in a way George Orwell himself couldn’t have written. God_damn_. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1434 "2017-05-17T17:01:13Z")
You know that meme cartoon with the dude in the fire saying “This Is fine,” right? [That’s Fox News right now.](http://fusion.kinja.com/fox-news-is-losing-its-mind-trying-to-cover-for-donald-1795291031) Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1435 "2017-05-18T13:01:20Z")
Roger Ailes is dead. [http://thehill.com/homenews/media/334011-ex-fox-news-head-roger-ailes-dead-report](http://thehill.com/homenews/media/334011-ex-fox-news-head-roger-ailes-dead-report) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1436 "2017-05-18T13:03:44Z")
Well he timed that well. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1437 "2017-05-18T13:13:43Z")
My thoughts and prayers are with his family at this time. And with his victims. ---
**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1438 "2017-05-18T13:35:25Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > And with his victims. Given that Fox News played a big part in giving us Trump and now in continuing to play cheerleader and chief distraction-makers to Trump’s scandals, that’s all of us. May he rot in hell. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1439 "2017-05-18T18:32:45Z")
> [@ganthet](#): > > Given that Fox News played a big part in giving us Trump and now in continuing to play cheerleader and chief distraction-makers to Trump’s scandals, that’s all of us. May he rot in hell. As well as cheerleading military adventurism in the middleast and the erosion of civil liberties in the US. Fox has made the entire world a worse place, and Ailes was a huge part of that. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1440 "2017-05-18T21:25:14Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > My thoughts and prayers are with his family at this time. > > And with his victims. very well put [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=71) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=73)