# Is Fox News really all that bad? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 73
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1441 "2017-05-19T02:59:23Z")
[“Ailes was the Christopher Columbus of hate.”](http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-roger-ailes-was-one-of-the-worst-americans-ever-w483013?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark) - Matt Taibbi in Rolling Stone. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1442 "2017-05-19T19:18:12Z")
“Fox News Fires ‘The Five’ Co-Host Bob Beckel Over Racist Comment” > **[Fox News Fires ‘The Five’ Co-Host Bob Beckel Over Racist Comment](https://variety.com/2017/tv/news/fox-news-bob-beckel-the-five-1202436839/)** > > Fox News Channel is parting ways — again — with Bob Beckel, the co-host of its primetime program, “The Five.” “Bob Beckel was terminated today for making an insensitiv… ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1443 "2017-05-19T19:48:18Z")
Man, after tossing out the misogynists they’re going to kick the racists too ? Who’s gonna be left to lie through their teeth ?! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1444 "2017-05-19T19:49:07Z")
‘The Four’, obviously. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1445 "2017-05-20T01:27:40Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Man, after tossing out the misogynists they’re going to kick the racists too ? Who’s gonna be left to lie through their teeth ?! Maybe Ken Lacourt is on to something. > [@jasg](#): > > A Fox [insider](http://www.mediaite.com/online/fox-news-insider-growing-and-troubling-realization-that-james-murdoch-is-in-charge/) fears that James Murdoch is taking over. one can only hope. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1446 "2017-05-23T18:41:16Z")
Fox news has posted a retraction on their website of their coverage of the Seth Rich story that he was killed by the Clintons/DNC. Although the retraction is pretty mealy mouthed. Plus, will Hannity stop his incessant conspiracy theorizing? > **[Statement on coverage of Seth Rich murder investigation](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/statement-on-coverage-of-seth-rich-murder-investigation)** > > On May 16, a story was posted on the Fox News website on the investigation into the 2016 murder of DNC Staffer Seth Rich. The article was not initially subjected to the high degree of editorial scrutiny we require for all our reporting. Upon... ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1447 "2017-05-23T19:50:19Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Fox news has posted a retraction on their website of their coverage of the Seth Rich story that he was killed by the Clintons/DNC. Although the retraction is pretty mealy mouthed. Plus, will Hannity stop his incessant conspiracy theorizing? > [Statement on coverage of Seth Rich murder investigation | Fox News](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/23/statement-on-coverage-seth-rich-murder-investigation.html) It served its purpose as a distraction from the Trump scandal of the day. Fox knew exactly what they were doing. No mistake there. Scum of the earth, every one of them. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1448 "2017-05-24T14:17:22Z")
Sean Hannity is a coward. He’s not apologizing for running with a conspiracy theory. But. he’s going to [cease discussing it out of respect for the family.](http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/sean-hannity-seth-rich-fox-news-2-1202442552/) Anyone who believes this explanation likely already watches Foxnews. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1449 "2017-05-25T18:48:33Z")
Fox is currently [in a slump](http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2017/05/daily-chart-18?cid1=cust/ddnew/n/n/n/20170525n/owned/n/n/nwl/n/n/uk/Daily_Dispatch/email&etear=dailydispatch), thanks largely to one man: > [@](#): > > In recent weeks, however, Mr Trump has been buffeted by scandal following his firing of James Comey, the director of the FBI. In response, audiences thirsty for negative coverage of the president—whose approval rating is now 16 percentage points underwater—are gleefully tuning in to MSNBC, Fox’s left-leaning competitor. In contrast, the torrent of negative headlines about Mr Trump may have made his supporters less likely to watch cable news at all. The overall pattern is impossible to mistake: each point of net approval rating the president loses has corresponded to a loss of some 20,500 prime-time viewers aged 25 to 54 for Fox, and a gain of nearly 2,300 for MSNBC. Ironically, people tend to tune in to watch negative stories and enjoy recreational outrage. Now that the Republicans hold the White House, MSNBC are thriving and FoxNews’ apologetics are driving viewers away. If and when the Democrats gain the ascendant, FoxNews can expect to see the pendulum swing back to them. Or I suppose they could try attacking Trump more (as indeed they have been) and see how that goes. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1450 "2017-05-25T18:55:40Z")
[Hannity is on vacation](http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/05/as-advertisers-flee-sean-hannity-takes-a-sudden-vacation.html), as advertisers start pulling their money. Seems familiar… ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1451 "2017-05-26T02:20:35Z")
Fox & Friends celebrates the assault on the reporter in Montana, even though the local Fox reporters stood up for him. [https://theguardiansofdemocracy.com/fox-news-panel-praises-gop-candidates-assault-reporter-snowflake-got-montana-justice/](https://theguardiansofdemocracy.com/fox-news-panel-praises-gop-candidates-assault-reporter-snowflake-got-montana-justice/) ---
**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1452 "2017-05-26T03:09:01Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Fox & Friends celebrates the assault on the reporter in Montana, even though the local Fox reporters stood up for him. > [https://theguardiansofdemocracy.com/fox-news-panel-praises-gop-candidates-assault-reporter-snowflake-got-montana-justice/](https://theguardiansofdemocracy.com/fox-news-panel-praises-gop-candidates-assault-reporter-snowflake-got-montana-justice/) Not even a local Fox reporter, but an actual Fox News reporter who has put out a story [detailing her very close eye-witness accoun](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/24/greg-gianforte-fox-news-team-witnesses-gop-house-candidate-body-slam-reporter.html)t to the assault. > [@Fox News reporter Alicia Acuna](#): > > To be clear, at no point did any of us who witnessed this assault see Jacobs [the Guardian reporter] show any form of physical aggression toward Gianforte [the Republican nominee for Congress], who left the area after giving statements to local sheriff’s deputies. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1453 "2017-05-26T03:17:32Z")
Well, I meant local as in on-the-scene. ---
**Author:** ![Salvor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Salvor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Salvor)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1454 "2017-05-26T04:29:14Z")
Yes. Read the comments, the viewers and conservatives are worse. ps, Gianforte the slammer is going to win. I think it might have boosted his chances. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1455 "2017-05-26T09:21:47Z")
So the \*Fox and Friends \* talking heads think that physical violence is an appropriate and justified response to reporters looking to do negatively-biased stories on candidates. That’s good to know. In other news, Hillary Clinton was later seen heading to the FoxNews studios carrying a baseball bat. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1456 "2017-05-26T09:24:41Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Fox & Friends celebrates the assault on the reporter in Montana, even though the local Fox reporters stood up for him. > [https://theguardiansofdemocracy.com/fox-news-panel-praises-gop-candidates-assault-reporter-snowflake-got-montana-justice/](https://theguardiansofdemocracy.com/fox-news-panel-praises-gop-candidates-assault-reporter-snowflake-got-montana-justice/) Tucker Carlson had a surprising take on this story. It began with a sentence describing the assault and saying it was wrong, and then 40+ minutes of talking about how the “violent left” is way, way worse. The surprising thing about his take of course being that he bothered with that opening sentence. A FOX viewer might actually be aware of a thing that happened in the world. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1457 "2017-05-26T12:23:49Z")
> [@](#): > > ps, Gianforte the slammer is going to win. I think it might have boosted his chances. that’s scary - is there no chance he will be in jail instead? :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1458 "2017-05-26T18:26:01Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > that’s scary - is there no chance he will be in jail instead? :mad: The sheriff is one of his campaign contributors. You decide. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1459 "2017-05-26T18:29:26Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > In other news, Hillary Clinton was later seen heading to the FoxNews studios carrying a baseball bat. /snip If only… ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1460 "2017-05-26T19:18:18Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The sheriff is one of his campaign contributors. You decide. In fairness, the sheriff did charge him, and doesn’t have much say in what goes on after that. But for a first-offense misdemeanor assault he’s probably looking at probation at the absolute worst. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=72) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=74)