# Is Fox News really all that bad?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2017, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1481 "2017-06-11T00:38:35Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
>
> This month in Fox’s infamous history…
> 
> [Fox News Was Attacking Barack Obama for Using Dijon Mustard at This Point in His Presidency - Newsweek](http://www.newsweek.com/barack-obama-donald-trump-russia-investigation-dijon-mustard-scandal-fox-fake-623643)

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/cAvq12Sa3VE/hqdefault.jpg "Hannity Attacks Obama For Putting Mustard On His Burger, More Fair and Balanced Reporting") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAvq12Sa3VE)

“Hope you enjoyed that fancy burger, Mr. President.”

Obviously not a ‘man of the people’ like Trump. Who only orders the best cuts of beef, well done and with lots of ketchup.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1482 "2017-06-23T14:29:14Z")

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I sometimes look at the Fox News website to see how the right is portraying the big news of the day. Yesterday had some fairly large news items, the biggest being the Senate unveiling Trumpcare 3.0. There was also that bit about Trump saying “nah, I don’t really have tapes - all bluster and lies from me.”

So, with those things making the news, take a look at the screenshot of Fox News:

[[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/fEDmDif.png?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/pI1Pl)

That is a 100% legit screenshot. I can understand them not wanting to highlight yet more lies from the grand poobah but nothing about Trumpcare???

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**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1483 "2017-06-23T14:50:43Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> There was also that bit about Trump saying “nah, I don’t really have tapes - all bluster and lies from me.”

“James Comey better hope that there are no “tapes” of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!”

Trump didn’t say he HAS tapes, he was obviously saying that if there WERE tapes, they would vindicate Trump. So, that one doesn’t count as a lie.

Now excuse me while I go take a shower.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1484 "2017-06-23T16:16:51Z")

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It is now 12 hours since I took that first screenshot of Fox News and there still isn’t a mention of the senate’s Turmpcare 3.0 in their main news articles:

[[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/i6VSguI.png?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/Qvfbm)

Apparently, healthcare doesn’t rank as high as Depp’s shocking news. Fox News is becoming People magazine.

Or, they are sticking their fingers in their ears and saying “LALALALALA - I can’t hear you”.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1485 "2017-07-11T04:02:00Z")

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Right now the front page of WaPo, the NYT, and the LA Times all have Trump Jr. attending a meeting specifically to collude with Russia as their top story. Fox has the Marine plane crash, followed by Alexa calling 911, US Soldier giving help to ISIS, and Johnny Depp in legal trouble. The only mention on the page is “Lawyer for Donald Trump Jr. says NY Times report ‘much ago about nothing.’”

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**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1486 "2017-07-11T05:59:20Z")

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> [@CurtC](#):
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> “James Comey better hope that there are no “tapes” of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!”
> 
> Trump didn’t say he HAS tapes, he was obviously saying that if there WERE tapes, they would vindicate Trump. So, that one doesn’t count as a lie.
> 
> Now excuse me while I go take a shower.

It was a deliberate attempt at deception on Trump’s part -a bluff. Virtually all of the in-person conversations appear to have taken place within the White House, where Trump presumably knows if there are recording equipment are not and whether, if there were some, they were actually recording. The location of only one conversation - the dinner in which Trump requested an oath of personal loyalty - is unknown since it isn’t clear whether this was in a White House dining area or some cordoned off portion of a restaurant.

If Comey secretly recorded any conversations himself between him and the president and they didn’t support his version of events, there wouldn’t be any reason to believe he would keep those recording around. So, it would only make sense to threaten someone with recorded conversations if the party making the threat had possession or at least access to the recordings. Trump either knew or would be able to easily and quickly find out whether any particular conversations were recorded.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1487 "2017-07-12T02:30:28Z")

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" **This is obviously very high level and sensitive information** but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.

What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?

**I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.**"

[Foxnews](https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2017/07/11/Foxs-chief-intelligence-correspondent-edited-out-mention-of-Russian-government-when-quotin/217211) left out the non bolded stuff. They yadda yadda yaddaed collusion with the Russians.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1488 "2017-07-12T04:57:49Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Right now the front page of WaPo, the NYT, and the LA Times all have Trump Jr. attending a meeting specifically to collude with Russia as their top story. Fox has the Marine plane crash, followed by Alexa calling 911, US Soldier giving help to ISIS, and Johnny Depp in legal trouble. The only mention on the page is “Lawyer for Donald Trump Jr. says NY Times report ‘much ago about nothing.’”

Fear not - it got slightly better.

‘HANNITY’ EXCLUSIVE: Trump Jr. says ‘in retrospect I probably would have done things a little differently’

```
VIDEOS: Trump Jr. — In retrospect, I would've done things differently | Inside Trump Jr. controversy
'HANNITY' EXCLUSIVE: Watch the full interview with Donald Trump Jr. at 10pm ET
GREGG JARRETT: Trump Jr. has broken no law | Kaine on emails: This is now a 'treason investigation'

```

I did say _slightly_. There’s the hard-hitting journalism we’ve come to expect from Sean Hannity! 😃

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1489 "2017-07-12T16:51:34Z")

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Subtle, Foxnews, [very subtle](http://www.thedailybeast.com/jared-kosher-fox-news-ticker-misidentifies-jared-kushner).

(Their chyron identifies Jared “Kushner” as Jared “Kosher”)

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1490 "2017-07-13T02:59:14Z")

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Fox News spends all day lying and smearing Comey in order to distract from Trump/Russia. Issues a 5 second apology for it.

[https://twitter.com/cafedotcom/status/884901943843274752](https://twitter.com/cafedotcom/status/884901943843274752)

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**Author:** ![SmartAlecCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SmartAlecCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAlecCat)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1491 "2017-07-16T21:16:20Z")

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[EXCLUSIVE: Fox News Caught Censoring Damaging Comments on Trump Jr.](http://ir.net/news/politics/126060/exclusive-fox-news-caught-censoring-damaging-comments-trump-jr/)

> [@](#):
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> Yesterday afternoon a Reddit user discovered that Fox News was censoring comments to protect Trump Jr. Fox is apparently selectively censoring a specific “factual” sentence that went against their narrative on the Trump Jr. email story. If you may have noticed, most of the reporting by Fox News on this scandal left out a key portion of the email sent from Rob Goldstone to Trump Jr. This section of the email, which claimed that the Russian Government wanted to provide damaging information on the DNC and Hillary Clinton, in an effort to help Trump win the election, can be seen below:
> 
> “This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”
> 
> What this Reddit user discovered, was that Fox News had auto-censored this very sentence from their user comments board. Whenever a user would post that sentence, the comment would initially show up for them, but if they were to log out and view the comments as a guest or in another browser, the comment actually was never posted.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1492 "2017-07-16T21:28:16Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Subtle, Foxnews, [very subtle](http://www.thedailybeast.com/jared-kosher-fox-news-ticker-misidentifies-jared-kushner).
> 
> (Their chyron identifies Jared “Kushner” as Jared “Kosher”)

Jesus. Is it just me, or is [he starting to look](http://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_1440,w_2560,x_0,y_0/dpr_2.0/c_limit,w_740/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1499874884/170712-kushner-kosher-cheat_cwx6p5) like [Varga from latest season of Fargo](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/z7OoAEMLzhI/maxresdefault.jpg)?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1493 "2017-07-17T20:58:14Z")

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He always reminded me of[Dorian Gray](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wT9aOGX4V8g/VgiYm7a9pVI/AAAAAAAAHrA/tJn-4ApzZjM/s1600/Hurd.jpg) from the 1945 movie

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1494 "2017-07-19T19:56:42Z")

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Brit Hume from Fox News:

“Obamacare was designed to help the poorest and sickest citizens out there. However, as noble as that sounds, the consequence of such logic is the fact that it neglects the core ethic values that were embedded in the Constitution and that comprise the basic philosophy of this country: spend your life working hard, playing hard and not burdening others with your problems. Make yourself capable of anything and all shall be given to you. That means that every American’s basic responsibility is to take care of themselves first, which is to say, make sure they don’t get sick and fall into the care of others. If that happens, you’ve pretty much lost the right to call yourself an American, as cruel as that sounds.”

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1495 "2017-07-19T20:07:33Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
>
> Brit Hume from Fox News:
> 
> “Obamacare was designed to help the poorest and sickest citizens out there. However, as noble as that sounds, the consequence of such logic is the fact that it neglects the core ethic values that were embedded in the Constitution and that comprise the basic philosophy of this country: spend your life working hard, playing hard and not burdening others with your problems. Make yourself capable of anything and all shall be given to you. That means that every American’s basic responsibility is to take care of themselves first, which is to say, make sure they don’t get sick and fall into the care of others. If that happens, you’ve pretty much lost the right to call yourself an American, as cruel as that sounds.”
> 
> [http://politicer.com/brit-hume-giving-health-insurance-to-sick-people-defeats-the-core-ethic-values-of-this-country/](http://politicer.com/brit-hume-giving-health-insurance-to-sick-people-defeats-the-core-ethic-values-of-this-country/)

WTF? How can anyone say something like that with a straight face? No one with any brains can actually believe that any and all sickness is the fault of the sick person.

Does Hume have no family or friends who’ve fallen sick through no fault of their own? Does he know no one who has a child with birth defects? Does he know no one who’s been injured in an accident they didn’t cause?

The man is either delusional, or he’s willing to spout any kind of evil bullshit if you pay him enough.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1496 "2017-07-19T20:07:37Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
>
> Brit Hume from Fox News:
> 
> “Obamacare was designed to help the poorest and sickest citizens out there. However, as noble as that sounds, the consequence of such logic is the fact that it neglects the core ethic values that were embedded in the Constitution and that comprise the basic philosophy of this country: spend your life working hard, playing hard and not burdening others with your problems. Make yourself capable of anything and all shall be given to you. That means that every American’s basic responsibility is to take care of themselves first, which is to say, make sure they don’t get sick and fall into the care of others. If that happens, you’ve pretty much lost the right to call yourself an American, as cruel as that sounds.”
> 
> [http://politicer.com/brit-hume-giving-health-insurance-to-sick-people-defeats-the-core-ethic-values-of-this-country/](http://politicer.com/brit-hume-giving-health-insurance-to-sick-people-defeats-the-core-ethic-values-of-this-country/)

Real americans don’t get sick.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1497 "2017-07-19T20:55:35Z")

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Whoops My apologies. The site I used with the Brit Hume quote above is a satire site. Fake news. I humbly apologize.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1498 "2017-07-19T21:04:31Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
>
> Whoops My apologies. The site I used with the Brit Hume quote above is a satire site. Fake news. I humbly apologize.

Poe’s Law.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1499 "2017-07-19T22:29:40Z")

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Dammit. I should know better than to respond to something without checking the source.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1500 "2017-07-20T18:08:04Z")

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Fox decided to have Mark Furhman, the cop convicted of perjury during OJ’s murder trial, to do commentary during OJ’s parole hearing.

> **[Mark Fuhrman will cover OJ Simpson parole hearing for Fox News](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4707154/Mark-Fuhrman-covers-OJ-Simpson-parole-hearing-Fox-News.html)**
>
> The cable news network has announced that Mark Fuhrman will provide 'contributions and analysis' during the convicted felon's parole hearing in front of the Nevada Board of Parole.

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