# Is Fox News really all that bad?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1881 "2018-04-17T01:42:43Z")

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I like the way the English do it: “Assisting the police in their inquiries is Mr. Ken Shabby…”

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1882 "2018-04-17T10:17:11Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> I just glanced at the Faux news homepage. _shiver_ They are well aware that Harry Anderson has passed away, but seem to have not yet heard about Hannity’s super huge newsday.

Shep Smith reported on it as soon as the news broke. It seemed to me that he was enjoying it and had trouble keeping a straight face. I think they no like each other. I hate Fox but I kind of like Shep.

> **[Shep Smith Calls Sean Hannity 'The Elephant In The Room' For Reported Michael...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/shep-smith-sean-hannity-michael-cohen_n_5ad4fec7e4b016a07e9f7376)**
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> It was sort of awkward when the big news story on Monday was Smith's colleague.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1883 "2018-04-17T11:03:08Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> I just glanced at the Faux news homepage. _shiver_ They are well aware that Harry Anderson has passed away, but seem to have not yet heard about Hannity’s super huge newsday.

Deep thinker that he is, Hannity has neatly trashed the efforts of Trumps lawyers by firmly denying he was Cohen’s client, thereby removing any claim of attorney-client privilege.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1884 "2018-04-17T17:07:21Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> I just glanced at the Faux news homepage. _shiver_ They are well aware that Harry Anderson has passed away, but seem to have not yet heard about Hannity’s super huge newsday.

I looked at it last night. Nothing about the story, but something in the corner which seemed to be Hannity denying the story.  
And something about how terrible a person Comey is, and lots of stories about bad things college students do. No wonder the mouth breathing Fox watchers think college is a waste of money - they only see bad stories about it on their favorite slime pit.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1885 "2018-04-17T18:41:07Z")

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Fox News has issued a statement:

> [@Fox](#):
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> While Fox News was unaware of Sean Hannity’s informal relationship with Michael Cohen and was surprised by the announcement in court yesterday, we have reviewed the matter and spoken to Sean and he continues to have our full support.

Well, glad that’s settled, then.

> **[Fox News, Surprised by Sean Hannity’s Ties to Trump Lawyer, Will Support Host](https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/fox-news-support-sean-hannity-michael-cohen-1202755919/)**
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> Fox News Channel will support host Sean Hannity despite being blindsided by news that he had a business relationship with Michael Cohen

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**Author:** ![WillReadmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/6f9a4e/32.png) [@WillReadmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillReadmore)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1886 "2018-04-17T18:49:05Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> I just glanced at the Faux news homepage. _shiver_ They are well aware that Harry Anderson has passed away, but seem to have not yet heard about Hannity’s super huge newsday.

I don’t know how FOX can possibly address that one while still retaining Hannity in any capacity.

They’ve had Hannity reporting on Trump’s lawyer with no disclaimer concerning his close relationship!

For any news outlet of any repute this would be a totally unacceptable deviation from honest commentary.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1887 "2018-04-17T18:51:51Z")

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Yes, it is skewed and editorialized in its presentation. With Trump in power, it is the equivalent of Russia’s state run media.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1888 "2018-04-17T19:32:18Z")

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Tucker Carlson is masturbatin’ like a motherfuck.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1889 "2018-04-17T19:38:56Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Tucker Carlson is masturbatin’ like a motherfuck.

Spoilers, damn it! We have standards.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1890 "2018-04-17T20:11:08Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Spoilers, damn it! We have standards.

What? He didn’t tell you how it ended.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1891 "2018-04-17T20:12:23Z")

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Crap! He’s gone and broken the bow-tied trust fund dweeb masturbation rule! We’re DOOMED!

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1892 "2018-04-17T20:54:24Z")

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> [@WillReadmore](#):
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> …  
> For any news outlet of any repute this would be a totally unacceptable deviation from honest commentary.

This is what the whole thread is about. Well, more specifically, this latest Hannity crock is one more example.

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1893 "2018-04-17T21:14:15Z")

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> [@Jasmine](#):
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> With Trump in power, it is the equivalent of Russia’s state run media.

That’s a little unkind on RT.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1894 "2018-04-17T22:04:10Z")

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No, no, Fox is kind of RT-farty.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1895 "2018-04-17T22:26:31Z")

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> Quoth **Bryan Ekers** :
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> Huh, I’d’a thought the conservative policy was mocking people who applied to colleges in general, i.e. “what, you think you’re better’n’me?!”

[That too](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=852928), apparently.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1896 "2018-04-18T02:39:23Z")

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> [@WillReadmore](#):
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> For any news outlet of any repute this would be a totally unacceptable deviation from honest commentary.

Back a long time ago there was a story on CBS News on Samuel Mudd, the doctor convicted of treating John Wilkes Booth after the assassination of Lincoln. The anchor was Roger Mudd - I think a great great grandson. Roger Mudd claimed he didn’t want to do the story because of the potential conflict.  
Now that’s journalistic integrity!

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1897 "2018-04-18T02:56:48Z")

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Fox News is not state run media. The Trump administration is Fox News run government.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1898 "2018-04-18T03:32:23Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Back a long time ago there was a story on CBS News on Samuel Mudd, the doctor convicted of treating John Wilkes Booth after the assassination of Lincoln. The anchor was Roger Mudd - I think a great great grandson. Roger Mudd claimed he didn’t want to do the story because of the potential conflict.  
> Now that’s journalistic integrity!

Related, but not directly descended. And Roger is 90, so it would be more like grandson or great-grandson. 1865 is not all that long ago.

> **[Samuel Mudd](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Mudd)**
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> Samuel Alexander Mudd Sr. (December 20, 1833 – January 10, 1883) was an American physician who was imprisoned for conspiring with John Wilkes Booth concerning the assassination of Abraham Lincoln.
> Mudd worked as a doctor and tobacco farmer in Southern Maryland. The Civil War seriously damaged his business, especially when Maryland abolished slavery in 1864. That year, he first met Booth, who was planning to kidnap Lincoln, and Mudd was seen in company with three of the conspirators. However, ...

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1899 "2018-04-18T14:38:58Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Fox News is not state run media. The Trump administration is Fox News run government.

that’s an important distinction, and much worse

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1900 "2018-04-18T16:51:50Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> Shep Smith reported on it as soon as the news broke. It seemed to me that he was enjoying it and had trouble keeping a straight face.

“And now, you die, and we all move up in rank!”

> [@elucidator](#):
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> Tucker Carlson is masturbatin’ like a motherfuck.

I guess the [panda porn](https://www.salon.com/2018/04/10/tucker-carlson-reports-on-sex-crazed-pandas-ignores-michael-cohen-news/) really got his motor running.

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