# Is Fox News really all that bad? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 97
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1921 "2018-04-25T20:02:24Z")
It has begun. You really shouldn’t otter done that… ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1922 "2018-04-25T20:13:16Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > It has begun. You really shouldn’t otter done that… Otter than that, what do you think about it? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1923 "2018-04-25T20:23:12Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Otter than that, what do you think about it? Put e lid on it, you must. Okay, that was the stretchiest of stretches… ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1924 "2018-04-25T21:20:35Z")
The discussion has become otter than anyone could have imagined. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1925 "2018-04-26T00:58:27Z")
> **[Fox News Had a Different Reaction When Obama Wanted to Negotiate with North...](https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/fox-news-different-reactions-regarding-negotiations-with-north-korea)** > > Everything wrong with Fox News in one video. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1926 "2018-04-26T05:29:06Z")
Wow fantastic video to bring us back on topic. It’s not just the hypocrisy; it’s the contempt for their viewers. They clearly think the people who watch have the memory of a goldfish and no principles whatsoever. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1927 "2018-04-26T09:48:24Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > Because the rest of the market is fragmented. If you want to hear facts and informed discussion, there are many options. > If you want to just cheer for trump and hate people who look different to you, there’s only really FOX. > > (I guess you can also get your fill of the latter on local news now, thanks to Sinclair, but for the purpose of the stat about cable news networks they of course are not a competitor) There’s One America News, doesn’t have nearly the market share of Fox but they’re probably more ridiculously in the tank for Herr Donald. The “then and now” video is pretty awesome. Instead of worrying about kids saying the pledge, we should make them watch this every day. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1928 "2018-04-26T14:39:08Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > Wow fantastic video to bring us back on topic. > > It’s not just the hypocrisy; it’s the contempt for their viewers. They clearly think the people who watch have the memory of a goldfish and no principles whatsoever. a self-fulfilling prophecy ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1929 "2018-04-26T15:22:05Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > [https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/fox-news-different-reactions-regarding-negotiations-with-north-korea](https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/fox-news-different-reactions-regarding-negotiations-with-north-korea) IOKWARDI Fair and balanced to the max!!! ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1930 "2018-04-26T15:34:16Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > They clearly think the people who watch have the memory of a goldfish and no principles whatsoever. [We’ve always been at war with Eastasia.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four#The_War) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1931 "2018-04-27T02:25:19Z")
So, anyway, watching the excerpt from the Fox talky where Trump is on the phone railing and ranting. Reminded of a Python sketch in structure, the comedy of increasing anxiety, with a Cleese character doing Trump’s part, and the Douche and the Bimbo and the Other Douche sitting stark staring still. Lot of you have seen the outtake, you can’t buy comedy like that. Right there at the end, Douche says “Well, you got a million things to do” and the phone interview is over. Did anyone else hear it as they hung up on him? As Eugene V. Debs is my witness, I swear he was still speaking when the line went dead! You can hear about half a word, and then it just stops! Izzat what you guys heard? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1932 "2018-04-27T02:27:24Z")
Couldn’t say, I haven’t been able to listen to a Republican speak since about 2004. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1933 "2018-04-27T02:41:37Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > So, anyway, watching the excerpt from the Fox talky where Trump is on the phone railing and ranting. Reminded of a Python sketch in structure, the comedy of increasing anxiety, with a Cleese character doing Trump’s part, and the Douche and the Bimbo and the Other Douche sitting stark staring still. > > Lot of you have seen the outtake, you can’t buy comedy like that. Right there at the end, Douche says “Well, you got a million things to do” and the phone interview is over. > > Did anyone else hear it as they hung up on him? As Eugene V. Debs is my witness, I swear he was still speaking when the line went dead! You can hear about half a word, and then it just stops! > > **Izzat what you guys heard?** That’s what happened. Epic. Positively unhinged. MSNBC has been pointing out all the missteps for the entire day, and they have a rich target environment. The Feds have already filed a motion saying they do not believe the papers are likely to contain many privileged documents in the SDNY case related to Trump. They cited Trump’s comment that Cohen handled only a small part of his legal work in the pleading within 2 hours of Trump’s having spewed it. This may be the only day that I actually appreciated something Fox “News” did. It’s worth enduring the sounds of that ghastly, ranting voice just to watch the hosts and their Herculean struggles to keep the horror off their faces. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1934 "2018-04-27T02:47:26Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > … Right there at the end, Douche says “Well, you got a million things to do” and the phone interview is over. > > Did anyone else hear it as they hung up on him? As Eugene V. Debs is my witness, I swear he was still speaking when the line went dead! You can hear about half a word, and then it just stops! > > Izzat what you guys heard? No, not really. They had a set time slot for it and they had to end it because of that. They did step on his blortings a tad there, but he ultimately recognized that they were wrapping. But it did seem reminiscent of that phone call with Aunt Clara. You know the one. She is so lonely, what with Uncle Brock done snuffed it, and you can barely get a word in, and you are desperately trying to find a politic way to get out of this call, because your ear is sore and sweating from the handset pressed up against it (even with the twenty times you have already swapped ears), but she just will not fucking let up, and you are crying with such frustration that your copy of _Architectural Digest_ is getting little blisters on that page with the house in Taos that you wanted to show to your spouse, but she just keeps … ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1935 "2018-04-27T02:55:40Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > No, not really. They had a set time slot for it and they had to end it because of that. They did step on his blortings a tad there, but he ultimately recognized that they were wrapping. I just came back to amend what I’d said. Not 5 minutes after I’d posted, I saw the entire end of the interview for the first time, and they did have to move him off, but he did finally get it. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAlecCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SmartAlecCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAlecCat)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1936 "2018-04-27T03:07:53Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > So, anyway, watching the excerpt from the Fox talky where Trump is on the phone railing and ranting. My favorite was when he was talking about the “fake news”, and he said something like “… so I never watch them anymore. I was watching last night and they said …” ---
**Author:** ![SmartAlecCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SmartAlecCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAlecCat)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1937 "2018-04-27T03:15:54Z")
> [@SmartAlecCat](#): > > My favorite was when he was talking about the “fake news”, and he said something like “… so I never watch them anymore. I was watching last night and they said …” Actual quote was “I don’t watch them at all! I watched last night, I tell you what.” ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1938 "2018-04-27T04:00:15Z")
If only Trump had called into a real news show while in that state. Any journalist or presenter with an ounce of credibility could have tore into him; over his insecurities, ignorance, inconsistencies, probably other “i” words etc. Would have been an epic interview, and probably concluded with _Trump_ hanging up, realizing he was finished. But because they’re in his pocket / BFFs, it instead limped on, painfully. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1939 "2018-04-27T04:15:13Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > So, anyway, watching the excerpt from the Fox talky where Trump is on the phone railing and ranting. Reminded of a Python sketch in structure, the comedy of increasing anxiety, with a Cleese character doing Trump’s part, and the Douche and the Bimbo and the Other Douche sitting stark staring still. It had a Queeg-like majesty to it, performed for an audience of one in his out-loud voice, lacking only the clack of two steel balls. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1940 "2018-04-27T04:32:04Z")
Here’s a complete transcript of Trump’s interview: > **[Analysis | Trump’s unwieldy ‘Fox and Friends’ interview, annotated](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/04/26/trumps-unwieldy-fox-and-friends-interview-annotated/?utm_term=.b841449a387d)** > > Trump downplayed his relationship with Michael Cohen — but also shed new light on the case. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=96) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=98)