# Is Fox News really all that bad? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 98
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1941 "2018-04-27T05:35:47Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > It had a Queeg-like majesty to it, performed for an audience of one in his out-loud voice, lacking only the clack of two steel balls. I initially misinterpreted that. I was thinking of Queequeg. “_I **will** defeat that Great Brown Whale that has been eating my dignity!_” he railed at the rising waves. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1942 "2018-04-27T06:23:38Z")
I didn’t make myself clear enough. I’m focusing on that very last moment, even after the attempted segue into buh-bye. I’m thinking the message didn’t get through. I mean, when was the last time anybody cut him short? Anyway, what I _think_ I heard was he was disconnected in mid-word. Could be wrong, I suppose. Was wrong once in '74, when I thought I made a mistake. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1943 "2018-04-27T19:42:18Z")
About that interview … [Trump’s ‘Fox & Friends’ rant was beyond unhinged](https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/26/opinions/trump-fox-news-interview-dantonio-intl/index.html) [The 53 most stunning lines from Donald Trump’s ‘Fox & Friends’ interview](https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/26/politics/donald-trump-fox-interview/) From the first link: Trump’s paranoia, a lifelong trait that he has admitted is part of his makeup, was so evident in his monologue that it constitutes a case study in delusion … As “Fox & Friends” co-host Brian Kilmeade then offered his own seemingly disconnected observation – “I’m not your doctor”-- he expressed what many viewers, including me, must have felt: Trump was on the verge of some sort of meltdown. He needed not an interviewer but an intervention. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1944 "2018-04-27T20:01:15Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I didn’t make myself clear enough. I’m focusing on that very last moment, even after the attempted segue into buh-bye. I’m thinking the message didn’t get through. I mean, when was the last time anybody cut him short? Anyway, what I _think_ I heard was he was disconnected in mid-word. > > Could be wrong, I suppose. Was wrong once in '74, when I thought I made a mistake. I thought he was still talking as well. I loved the whole thing. It was epic. He must have put Kelly in a closet and shoved a door under the handle. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1945 "2018-04-27T20:14:28Z")
I think this is bit I heard: > [@](#): > > KILMEADE: Everyone. We could talk to you all day but it looks like — > > TRUMP: Sure. > > KILMEADE: — you have a million things to do. > > TRUMP: Well, you could have — He did eventually bow to reality and give up. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1946 "2018-04-27T20:28:22Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > About that interview … > > [Trump’s ‘Fox & Friends’ rant was beyond unhinged](https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/26/opinions/trump-fox-news-interview-dantonio-intl/index.html) > [The 53 most stunning lines from Donald Trump’s ‘Fox & Friends’ interview](https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/26/politics/donald-trump-fox-interview/) > > From the first link: > Trump’s paranoia, a lifelong trait that he has admitted is part of his makeup, was so evident in his monologue that it constitutes a case study in delusion … As “Fox & Friends” co-host Brian Kilmeade then offered his own seemingly disconnected observation – “I’m not your doctor”-- he expressed what many viewers, including me, must have felt: Trump was on the verge of some sort of meltdown. He needed not an interviewer but an intervention. I just watched the ~60 second clip where Kilmeade says he’s not Trump’s doctor. It wasn’t quite out of the blue, but it was still frightening to watch. I hadn’t watched any of the interview before that. It was fucking nuts. It went on like that for _twenty minutes_?! Trump was off the rails. My bipolar father in law is more coherent when he’s manic. In the clip, Trump was pinballing back and forth between “I don’t watch them anymore” and “Did you see what X said?”, getting crazier and crazier, and Kilmeade had to break in and say, “I’m not your doctor, but I would recommend you watch less of them.” It fell to Brian Kilmeade, of all people, to be the voice of reason and try to talk the President of the United States down from a ledge. God help us all. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1947 "2018-04-27T21:24:49Z")
I have heard other reactions, like what I interpreted as him being cut off in mid word was more like he was making the sort of goodbye noises common to leaving off. Makes sense, considering the mandatory adoration requirement. They wouldn’t dare, and I can buy that. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1948 "2018-04-28T01:38:30Z")
Have we reached a verdict? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1949 "2018-04-28T02:52:33Z")
Yes: they really are that bad. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1950 "2018-04-28T04:01:36Z")
Its not like we exactly _arrived_ at a consensus. But seems to me if someone can mock you by quoting _verbatim_, that’s some sorry ass shit right there. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1951 "2018-04-28T04:16:53Z")
Remember the good old days when all a man had to worry about was coexisting peacefully with the fish and putting food on his family? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1952 "2018-04-28T04:19:04Z")
I sure hope not. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1953 "2018-04-28T04:37:58Z")
Sorry I know this is going back a bit, but Tucker doing a segment on sex-crazed killer (probably…if they wanted to be) pandas, on the day Cohen got raided, deserves more comment than it got upthread. Seems like an April fool’s, but it went out on 9th April. Linking the [Colbert clip](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciYXvWbyl00) because it gives some context (e.g. the fact he already did this story, as satire). ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1954 "2018-04-28T04:59:40Z")
Pretty subtle and crafty, shoe-horning some Colbert into things. Sure, reality has a liberal bias, but humor is positively partisan. I am compelled, on principle, to disapprove. Tsk-tsk. Tut. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1955 "2018-04-30T08:42:12Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I have heard other reactions, like what I interpreted as him being cut off in mid word was more like he was making the sort of goodbye noises common to leaving off. Makes sense, considering the mandatory adoration requirement. They wouldn’t dare, and I can buy that. I think he was saying “Love you!..No, I love _you_ more!.. No, _you_ hang up… No, _you_… _You_…” ---
**Author:** ![SmartAlecCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SmartAlecCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAlecCat)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1956 "2018-05-09T21:15:56Z")
[Fox News blacks out bombshell Michael Cohen revelations during 3 hours of primetime coverage](https://thinkprogress.org/fox-news-suppresses-bombshell-michael-cohen-revelations-trump-2d9858943036/) > [@](#): > > But if you spent Monday evening watching Trump’s favorite network, you might still be in the dark about all of that. According to SnapStream transcripts, the name “Michael Cohen” was not uttered a single time during Fox News’ top-rated shows hosted by Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, or Laura Ingraham. > […] > Fox News’ suppression of the Cohen story reflects how the network regularly protects the president. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1957 "2018-05-10T15:13:47Z")
> [@SmartAlecCat](#): > > [Fox News blacks out bombshell Michael Cohen revelations during 3 hours of primetime coverage](https://thinkprogress.org/fox-news-suppresses-bombshell-michael-cohen-revelations-trump-2d9858943036/) And this morning, [foxnews.com](http://foxnews.com) is covered in “brink of mideast war” stories. The so-called president’s tactics are working. They are praying for a war at this point. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1958 "2018-05-10T15:32:26Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > And this morning, [foxnews.com](http://foxnews.com) is covered in “brink of mideast war” stories. The so-called president’s tactics are working. They are praying for a war at this point. This is one of the most documented times of all of history. I do wonder when historians look back, if there will be any disagreement, or if it will be a complete consensus that America chose to become belligerents in starting a war. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1959 "2018-05-10T16:03:26Z")
This certainly puts the _kibosh_ on all that derp-state propaganda about helping Russia! Because Russia doesn’t sell oil! Well, OK, a little. A few barrels. Few _million_ barrels. Nothing to see here, quit looking! ---
**Author:** ![LAZombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b38774/32.png) [@LAZombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LAZombie)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1960 "2018-05-10T17:45:04Z")
Don Jr. moving on from Vanessa with Fox host Kimberly Guilfoyle > **[Don Jr. moving on from Vanessa with Fox host Kimberly Guilfoyle](https://pagesix.com/2018/05/09/don-jr-moving-on-from-vanessa-with-fox-host-kimberly-guilfoyle/?_ga=2.34402337.1894275771.1525973676-1547805811.1479829521)** > > “While he wants to respect the privacy of his family, he is getting divorced, and he enjoys Kimberly’s company,” a source exclusively told Page Six. The great forces of evil are uniting. LOL. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=97) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=99)