# Is Fox News really all that bad? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 3, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625 "2012-10-03T21:14:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 99
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1961 "2018-05-10T19:28:23Z")
Another low for Fox - [Fox News Military Analyst Says John McCain Broke Under Torture and Gave Secrets to North Vietnamese](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/fox-news-analyst-john-mccain-broke-under-torture.html?). > [@](#): > > That’s Thomas McInerney, an Air Force veteran and “Fox News Insider” who has appeared on the network to discuss military issues for many years. (The clip above is from its sister business channel.) The “Songbird John” claim appears to be derived from a debunked 2008 smear campaign that was launched against McCain in part by a notorious North Carolina man who was convicted of assault in 1993 for attacking one of McCain’s aides. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAlecCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SmartAlecCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAlecCat)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1962 "2018-05-12T02:13:50Z")
[Fox News claims The New York Times ignored a story it actually broke](https://thinkprogress.org/fox-news-claims-nyt-ignored-story-it-broke-03fe44f73efc/)[1] > [@](#): > > Fox & Friends host Pete Hegseth on Friday morning complained that mainstream media outlets had effectively ignored a recent story about five ISIS officials captured by Iraqi and American intelligence agents. The host singled out “the failing New York Times” in particular, rifling through the Times’ Friday print edition and noting that the news was nowhere to be found. > […] > There was just one problem: the Times had, indeed, covered the story. In fact, as Mediaite pointed out, the outlet was the first American publication to report the story in the United States, directly after Iraqi state TV had run a segment about it Wednesday morning. [1] - Warning, link to liberal “fake”[2] news media. [2] - As far as I can tell, “fake” now means well-researched, true story. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1963 "2018-05-12T02:44:13Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > Don Jr. moving on from Vanessa with Fox host Kimberly Guilfoyle > > [Donald Trump Jr. moving on from Vanessa Trump with Fox host Kimberly Guilfoyle](https://pagesix.com/2018/05/09/don-jr-moving-on-from-vanessa-with-fox-host-kimberly-guilfoyle/?_ga=2.34402337.1894275771.1525973676-1547805811.1479829521) > > The great forces of evil are uniting. LOL. :smack::smack::smack::smack: Okay, it’s Friday, a slow news day, but couldn’t he wait until after the midterrms? And she’s a brunette! Am I to believe Fox News hired a brunette? Fake news! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1964 "2018-05-12T02:52:37Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > :smack::smack::smack::smack: > > Okay, it’s Friday, a slow news day, but couldn’t he wait until after the midterrms? > > And she’s a brunette! Am I to believe Fox News hired a brunette? Fake news! Check the carpet. Unless she has hardwood floors. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1965 "2018-05-12T02:58:50Z")
Y’know, given her and the general hotitude (my spell checker accepted that?) of Fox hostesses, if you ignore all rules about The Crazy, a rule that was created because guys can’t resist The Crazy, her choice of flooring is irrelevant, though I prefer carpet. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1966 "2018-05-12T04:21:45Z")
I predict their business relationship will last as long as his father’s presidency. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1967 "2018-05-12T18:05:48Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Check the carpet. Unless she has hardwood floors. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1968 "2018-05-12T19:12:33Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > 😕 **James Bond:** Weren’t you a blonde when I came in? **Tiffany Case:** Could be. **James Bond:** I tend to notice little things like that, whether a girl’s a blonde or a brunette. **Tiffany Case:** And which do you prefer? **James Bond:** Oh, providing the collars and cuffs match… The ‘carpet’ reference is similar: ‘Providing the carpet matches the drapes.’ ‘Hardwood floors’ you can figure out from there. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1969 "2018-05-12T20:17:22Z")
Toenails? ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1970 "2018-05-13T01:08:55Z")
> [@](#): > > ‘Hardwood floors’ you can figure out from there yes, I expect I can. Since we are in Great Debates I have no more to add. ---
**Author:** ![A\_Dodgy\_Dude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a87d85/32.png) [@A\_Dodgy\_Dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_Dodgy_Dude)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1971 "2018-05-13T01:44:49Z")
You’ll find more liberals on FOX than you’ll find conservatives on ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC and PBS combined. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1972 "2018-05-13T01:48:39Z")
> [@A\_Dodgy\_Dude](#): > > You’ll find more liberals on FOX than you’ll find conservatives on ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC and PBS combined. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1973 "2018-05-13T02:05:45Z")
> [@A\_Dodgy\_Dude](#): > > You’ll find more liberals on FOX than you’ll find conservatives on ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC and PBS combined. Trick question. There are no conservatives anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1974 "2018-05-13T07:02:54Z")
> [@A\_Dodgy\_Dude](#): > > You’ll find more liberals on FOX than you’ll find conservatives on ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC and PBS combined. All right, let’s test that theory. If you make a list of all the liberals on Fox, I’ll get to work on the others. Deal? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1975 "2018-05-13T14:31:44Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > All right, let’s test that theory. If you make a list of all the liberals on Fox, I’ll get to work on the others. Deal? It wasn’t supposed to be a fact in the sense of something that is provably true. It was supposed to be a fact in the sense of something that sounds like it might be true and you hope nobody looks into it too deeply. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1976 "2018-05-13T16:06:16Z")
It was a your-turn-to-give fact. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1977 "2018-05-13T16:09:30Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > All right, let’s test that theory. If you make a list of all the liberals on Fox, I’ll get to work on the others. Deal? I love the sounds of crickets in the evening. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1978 "2018-05-13T16:53:06Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > It wasn’t supposed to be a fact in the sense of something that is provably true. It was supposed to be a fact in the sense of something that sounds like it might be true and you hope nobody looks into it too deeply. It’s ‘truthy.’ ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1979 "2018-05-13T17:46:35Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Trick question. There are no conservatives anymore. Well, there are, really. In terms of what “conservative” actually means, there are an abundance of them on the “fake news MSM” networks and a very small number of them on the alt-news networks like Fox. These people who call themselves conservatives are some other thing that are more like ultra-reactionaries. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625/1980 "2018-05-14T08:27:49Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > I love the sounds of crickets in the evening. Like, shit, I looked at that post and immediately assumed “May 2018”. What a shock to see that I was off by a _decade_. It’s taking longer than we thought indeed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=98) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-fox-news-really-all-that-bad/636625.md?page=100)