# Is Gay Sex Beautiful? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 4, 2017, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-sex-beautiful/783738 "2017-04-04T16:22:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-sex-beautiful/783738/61 "2017-04-05T00:53:20Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > Porn is decidedly _not_ beautiful. Cheesy, predictable and with bad production values etc. Stimulating yes, but not because of beauty. > > That you find being stimulated a beautiful sensation doesn’t make the porn a thing of beauty, to my mind. I agree with this too. Take freakishly large penises, a mainstay in most porn, for example. Beautiful they are not. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-sex-beautiful/783738/62 "2017-04-05T01:20:15Z")
Every time I thought _“This is beautiful…”_ it turned out I was doing it wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-sex-beautiful/783738/63 "2017-04-05T01:20:21Z")
Depends on what the dudes look like. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-sex-beautiful/783738/64 "2017-04-05T01:36:17Z")
I think the question, as asked, may be meaningless just because the notion of “beautiful” is so notoriously subjective, and gay sex itself takes different forms, while the statement is a direct 1:1 identity, _(Gay sex)=(“beautiful”)_. Like someone said earlier, it _can_ be. Or it can \*fail \*to be. Or it can result in a reaction of indifference. Or a whole gamut of possible responses even with the same set of circumstances. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-sex-beautiful/783738/65 "2017-04-05T01:51:47Z")
In my sexual life, I could count on one hand (with a couple digits to spare) the number of times I’ve had beautiful sex. The beauty of it, however, was nothing physical, at least not in totality (or even majority). Beautiful sex is when you feel an intense personal connection to that other person. I feel like beautiful sex is when multiple aspect of a sexual experience meld together. Intimacy, lustful attraction, a bit of selflessness, self-confidence and the ability to read your partners needs and wants and adapt seemlessly all contribute ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-sex-beautiful/783738/66 "2017-04-05T03:17:47Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > That’s such an incredibly broad definition of beautiful. I enjoy looking at my fluffy little hairball of a dog. I do not think that fluffy little hairball is beautiful however. Or i enjoy looking at world class bodybuilders but I absolutely do not think they look beautiful. Etc… I feel you’re overthinking this. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-sex-beautiful/783738/67 "2017-04-05T03:58:04Z")
Another vote that sex for the loving participants can be beautiful, gay straight what have you, and that sex (all options again) outside of the participation POV can be arousing, interesting, titillating, gross, messy, lots of things, but rarely (not never) “beautiful.” Poll options fail. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-sex-beautiful/783738/68 "2017-04-05T04:00:06Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Don’t put words in my mouth, I never said sex was ugly. Porn is popular, at least in part, because it’s an idealized version of sex that isn’t a part of normal life (for most porn viewers at least). Noone is putting words in your mouth. > [@Ambivalid](#): > > In my sexual life, I could count on one hand (with a couple digits to spare) the number of times I’ve had beautiful sex. The beauty of it, however, was nothing physical, at least not in totality (or even majority). Beautiful sex is when you feel an intense personal connection to that other person. I feel like beautiful sex is when multiple aspect of a sexual experience meld together. Intimacy, lustful attraction, a bit of selflessness, self-confidence and the ability to read your partners needs and wants and adapt seemlessly all contribute > [@DSeid](#): > > Another vote that sex for the loving participants can be beautiful, gay straight what have you, and that sex (all options again) outside of the participation POV can be arousing, interesting, titillating, gross, messy, lots of things, but rarely (not never) “beautiful.” > > Poll options fail. If pugs are beautiful I don’t see why sex isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-sex-beautiful/783738/69 "2017-04-05T04:06:11Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > I made no comment as to what beauty is. Sex is attractive and arousing when you’re the ones doing it. But the vaaaaast majority of sex bears little if any resemblance to most sex. 😕 Did you mean “the vaaaaast majority of PORN”? eta: This is post #69 in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-sex-beautiful/783738/70 "2017-04-05T04:09:31Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > I agree with this too. Take freakishly large penises, a mainstay in most porn, for example. Beautiful they are not. As a straight woman, women with freakishly huge breasts, waxed crotches, and massive plastic surgery are not beautiful either. Porno penises are usually not as big as they appear to be; lots can be done with, among other things, camera angles and trimming pubic hair. ---
**Author:** ![Elemenopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b5e925/32.png) [@Elemenopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elemenopy)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-sex-beautiful/783738/71 "2017-04-05T04:09:41Z")
In the sense that any sex “can” be beautiful, of course. I’m not a big fan of porn, mostly because I think there’s a lot of exploitation of young people involved, of any gender. However, on the rare occasions that I indulge, I usually watch gay or lesbian tilted pornography. I’m a relatively straight female, so take that for what it’s worth. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-sex-beautiful/783738/72 "2017-04-05T04:22:03Z")
All sex is kind of like of those green beans with the almonds and crunchy onion bits on top but then your foot falls asleep so you go outside to feed the birds but with more chocolate chips. ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-sex-beautiful/783738/73 "2017-04-05T04:27:05Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > All sex is kind of like of those green beans with the almonds and crunchy onion bits on top but then your foot falls asleep so you go outside to feed the birds but with more chocolate chips. Smurf, are you Drunky? ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-sex-beautiful/783738/74 "2017-04-05T04:28:46Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > I agree with this too. Take freakishly large penises, a mainstay in most porn, for example. Beautiful they are not. I dunno, man, Sean Lawless’s tool is a freakin’ work of _art_. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-sex-beautiful/783738/75 "2017-04-05T04:33:24Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > All sex is kind of like of those green beans with the almonds and crunchy onion bits on top but then your foot falls asleep so you go outside to feed the birds but with more chocolate chips. I’m thinking of making this my new siggy. ---
**Author:** ![Elemenopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b5e925/32.png) [@Elemenopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elemenopy)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-sex-beautiful/783738/76 "2017-04-05T04:45:51Z")
Well, somebody’s got to like freakishly large penises doing things, or else they wouldn’t …be a thing. eh? As for me, I occasionally kind of like seeing owners of unusually proportioned things…doing their own thing with them. :o ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-sex-beautiful/783738/77 "2017-04-05T04:46:43Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > All sex is kind of like of those green beans with the almonds and crunchy onion bits on top but then your foot falls asleep so you go outside to feed the birds but with more chocolate chips. This is exactly what I’ve been saying for YEARS; finally someone understands me. > [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > I dunno, man, Sean Lawless’s tool is a freakin’ work of _art_. And it’s actually not that big. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-sex-beautiful/783738/78 "2017-04-05T06:09:47Z")
I will fight to my bloody death for gay people’s right to have gross sex. ---
**Author:** ![SOJA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@SOJA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SOJA)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-sex-beautiful/783738/79 "2017-04-05T06:37:40Z")
I’m not into men, but I’m sure the sex is just as gross and or disgusting on a sound and molecular level as it is for sex with women. I think a lot of people, mainly teens or the religious who’d rather wait until marriage become utterly disappointed that their idyllic sex scenario (their first time) doesn’t live up to what they built up in their mind. Even for those who’ve had sex several times in their life may find themselves filled with sheer disappointment, pun not intended, how awful sex could be, even with the office hotty or whomever was lucky enough to be with them, and vice versa. Actual sex is dirty because it involves micro-splashes of bodily fluids being secreted from sexual organs, sweat, hot and often stinky, stale breath and of course the eventual discharge of fluids. When people think of sex, they often build up an idyllic situation in their mind or they rely too much on pornography to give them an idea of what sex is like. It’s not realistic. I’m sure Janet is incapable of taking a 9+" monster and Rick is incapable of sticking his dingus into his man’s chute with no work at all and almost no lubricant. Now if you’re talking about two men having sex and it being passionate simply because of the ancient Greeks or Romans, then you might have a point, but I can’t see it being any less or more beautiful than heterosexual sex, though I’m not inclined to test it out myself. I would say that self-pleasure or even two women would be “cleaner” in terms of fluids, sweat and smell compared to traditional or in this case, non-traditional forms of sex. > [@Acsenray](#): > > That industry is quite adept at faking what sex is like in order to make it look appealing and exciting on camera. I read this post and I knew I had to register just to agree with you. You are so correct. The pornography industry’s aim to make money. They won’t make money with people saying “Oh, God, it hurts! Take it out, Jed!” or other bodily functions making their rounds, such as a numero dos mid-session, release of gas or other bodily fluids except the expected of the genre, provided you aren’t looking at some far-out stuff. 🆒 Pornography is pornography. It’s considered an “art” and its goal is to titillate the individual or individuals watching it and provide an ideal experience the viewer may want to experience themselves. I’m sure there’s situational pornography that steps outside these boundaries, but that’s for another discussion. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-sex-beautiful/783738/80 "2017-04-05T07:26:47Z")
> [@SOJA](#): > > I’m not into men, but I’m sure the sex is just as gross and or disgusting on a sound and molecular level as it is for sex with women. I think a lot of people, mainly teens or the religious who’d rather wait until marriage become utterly disappointed that their idyllic sex scenario (their first time) doesn’t live up to what they built up in their mind. Even for those who’ve had sex several times in their life may find themselves filled with sheer disappointment, pun not intended, how awful sex could be, even with the office hotty or whomever was lucky enough to be with them, and vice versa. > > Actual sex is dirty because it involves micro-splashes of bodily fluids being secreted from sexual organs, sweat, hot and often stinky, stale breath and of course the eventual discharge of fluids. When people think of sex, they often build up an idyllic situation in their mind or they rely too much on pornography to give them an idea of what sex is like. It’s not realistic. I’m sure Janet is incapable of taking a 9+" monster and Rick is incapable of sticking his dingus into his man’s chute with no work at all and almost no lubricant. > > Now if you’re talking about two men having sex and it being passionate simply because of the ancient Greeks or Romans, then you might have a point, but I can’t see it being any less or more beautiful than heterosexual sex, though I’m not inclined to test it out myself. > > I would say that self-pleasure or even two women would be “cleaner” in terms of fluids, sweat and smell compared to traditional or in this case, non-traditional forms of sex. > > I read this post and I knew I had to register just to agree with you. You are so correct. The pornography industry’s aim to make money. They won’t make money with people saying “Oh, God, it hurts! Take it out, Jed!” or other bodily functions making their rounds, such as a numero dos mid-session, release of gas or other bodily fluids except the expected of the genre, provided you aren’t looking at some far-out stuff. 🆒 > > Pornography is pornography. It’s considered an “art” and its goal is to titillate the individual or individuals watching it and provide an ideal experience the viewer may want to experience themselves. I’m sure there’s situational pornography that steps outside these boundaries, but that’s for another discussion. That all sounds good except for the hot, stinky, stale breath. But a toothbrush or a mint does wonders! And who thinks of this stuff on a molecular level? At that point you are mostly bacteria and fungus cells in terms of sheer numbers but that’s no fun nor is it visible. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-sex-beautiful/783738.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-sex-beautiful/783738.md?page=5)