# "Is Gay the New Black?"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-the-new-black/476693>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [December 11, 2008, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-the-new-black/476693 "2008-12-11T06:51:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-gay-the-new-black/476693/43 "2008-12-12T06:42:59Z")

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> I know what it is, I asked for a site that shows some cases where people actually got off using it. This is just like the Twinkie defense. All the examples from your site were people that were convicted. Show me where this defense has actually worked, or even a one that indicates a significant minority of people believe “Gay men can still be murdered and the straight neighbors will still shake their heads and say “He had it coming for being so obvious”.” I await your citations.

Those weren’t the only instances it was used-merely the most high profile. It’s rather late, I’ll look some more up in the morning.

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> First, you don’t have a point. You’re just screeching and acting hysterically. Second, I have no problem with any group being primary focused on their own cause. However, if you are going to piggy-back on the work of others, you should have a understanding and appreciation for the work they did. Additionally, you should make sure your comparisons are valid, and don’t offend the people you seek to influence. The Gay community, for the most part, has done neither. They reached back to the nearest movement that bore any resemblance that would resonate emotionally with progressive people. It’s a disingenuous and inaccurate comparison.

You have yet to show any examples of this yourself. I don’t see where the gay community has done any of what you’ve accused them of. All you seem to be interested in doing is trying to play the game of who has it worse, instead of trying to make it better for all.

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