# Is General Grevious a Dug? (Sebulba's species)

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**Created:** [May 17, 2005, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-general-grevious-a-dug-sebulbas-species/304162 "2005-05-17T00:21:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-general-grevious-a-dug-sebulbas-species/304162/1 "2005-05-17T00:21:52Z")

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You know, Sebulba the baddie that Anakin raced against in TPM? I have pros and cons to this theory:

Pros: overall body configuration very similar. Head and neck structure similar. Quadradextrous limbs.

Cons: Grevious is much larger than Sebulba. Sebulba walked consistantly on his “hands” rather than switching.

So whaddya think?

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-general-grevious-a-dug-sebulbas-species/304162/2 "2005-05-17T00:23:36Z")

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**Grievous**. :smack:

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**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-general-grevious-a-dug-sebulbas-species/304162/3 "2005-05-17T00:25:50Z")

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He could be anything, but mostly he’s a cyborg. You could put extra arms on a human and train him how to use them.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-general-grevious-a-dug-sebulbas-species/304162/4 "2005-05-17T02:26:14Z")

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No, because that’s just Grievous’s cyborg body. All that’s left are a brain and maybe some internal organs in some kind of support system.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-general-grevious-a-dug-sebulbas-species/304162/5 "2005-05-17T02:59:38Z")

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> [@sturmhauke](#):
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> He could be anything, but mostly he’s a cyborg. You could put extra arms on a human and train him how to use them.

That’s right.

He’s “more machine than man.” 😃

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**Author:** ![BraheSilver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@BraheSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BraheSilver)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-general-grevious-a-dug-sebulbas-species/304162/6 "2005-05-17T03:05:09Z")

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My thought is that he’s an alien of nondeterminate species because of the eyes.

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**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-general-grevious-a-dug-sebulbas-species/304162/7 "2005-05-17T03:16:43Z")

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I hope he is.

I dig dug.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-general-grevious-a-dug-sebulbas-species/304162/8 "2005-05-17T04:45:21Z")

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From _Labrynth of Evil_, I THINK his species is called Kaleesh, but it’s been a while since I read it, so I could be mistaken. But no, I think we can safely say he’s not a Dug.

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**Author:** ![toadspittle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c0e974/32.png) [@toadspittle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toadspittle)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-general-grevious-a-dug-sebulbas-species/304162/9 "2005-05-17T16:05:58Z")

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Here’s what I can find online:  
[http://www.generalgrievous.net/](http://www.generalgrievous.net/) (!)

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> Full Name: General Grievous Shakar  
> Home World: Kalee  
> Species: 5% Omix-patra (Mainly brain, eyes and nervous system)

I have no idea where this info. came from; all other web references to “Omix-patra” seem to derive from this site.  
And:

[http://www.theforce.net/comics/darkhorxxse/cp\_generalgrievous1.asp](http://www.theforce.net/comics/darkhorxxse/cp_generalgrievous1.asp)

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> the first thing Yoda says upon hearing Grievous’ name is “A Kalee he once was.”

That’s from a Dark Horse comic book (General Grievous #1), so the “Kalee” part appears to be pretty close to canon.

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**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-general-grevious-a-dug-sebulbas-species/304162/10 "2005-05-17T16:10:27Z")

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> [@Menocchio](#):
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> I dig dug.

Man, I hate it when somebody steals the joke I was so proud of and racing to post. ☹

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**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-general-grevious-a-dug-sebulbas-species/304162/11 "2005-05-17T20:09:58Z")

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> [@Larry Mudd](#):
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> That’s right.
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> He’s “more machine than man.” 😃

Heh. Vader doesn’t need extra arms to kill Jedi though.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-general-grevious-a-dug-sebulbas-species/304162/12 "2005-05-17T21:24:41Z")

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> [@sturmhauke](#):
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> Heh. Vader doesn’t need extra arms to kill Jedi though.

Who kills more Jedi, Grevious or Vader?

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-general-grevious-a-dug-sebulbas-species/304162/13 "2005-05-17T21:52:43Z")

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> [@adam yax](#):
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> Who kills more Jedi, Grevious or Vader?

In Ep 3, we know Grievous has killed at least 4 Jedis, because he has at least that many lightsabers. We never see Anakin slay any Jedi besides younglings/jr. padewans. The clone troopers take care of the rest.

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**Author:** ![The\_Hook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@The\_Hook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hook)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-general-grevious-a-dug-sebulbas-species/304162/14 "2005-05-18T00:28:40Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> So whaddya think?

I think he’s a dude. From the [databank](http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/generalgrievous/index.html), the only information is that he’s male, and for aliens the option “species” is offered, even if it is unknown (as is the case with Yoda). You can’t derive from there that he’s human, but I have a bad feeling about this… I mean, I have a feeling he has the same health care plan as Robocop.
