# Is George Bush Jr. a Coward Who Lacks a Sense of Shame?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 22, 2004, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-bush-jr-a-coward-who-lacks-a-sense-of-shame/260938 "2004-08-22T03:54:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2004, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-bush-jr-a-coward-who-lacks-a-sense-of-shame/260938/61 "2004-08-24T16:36:16Z")

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> [@Airman Doors](#):
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> they attack their opponents with relish on everything they can think of,

mmmm, relish on everything

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2004, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-bush-jr-a-coward-who-lacks-a-sense-of-shame/260938/62 "2004-08-24T17:36:40Z")

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> [@Measure for Measure](#):
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> I wish to distinguish the son from the father when they have the same given name (minus a single initial admittedly). Please direct me on how I should do so.

George Bush “the elder” or “the younger”.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2004, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-bush-jr-a-coward-who-lacks-a-sense-of-shame/260938/63 "2004-08-24T19:32:55Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> mmmm, relish on everything

I like ketchup and chopped onions better.

Except for mustard on ham. Accept no substitutes!

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2004, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-bush-jr-a-coward-who-lacks-a-sense-of-shame/260938/64 "2004-08-24T21:40:32Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> I like ketchup and chopped onions better.
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> Except for mustard on ham. Accept no substitutes!

But what kind of mustard? French’s yellow? (Always so well-prepared, even Batman can’t beat it)

Gulden’s brown?

Dijon? (_That_ one’s likely to stir up a ruckus)

Or one of the glazes with honey and cloves, such as you can find at the Honeybaked Ham Store?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2004, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-bush-jr-a-coward-who-lacks-a-sense-of-shame/260938/65 "2004-08-24T22:18:25Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> But what kind of mustard? French’s yellow? (Always so well-prepared, even Batman can’t beat it)
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> Gulden’s brown?
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> Dijon? (_That_ one’s likely to stir up a ruckus)
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> Or one of the glazes with honey and cloves, such as you can find at the Honeybaked Ham Store?

Answer: None of the above.

No, the only mustard worthy of gracing my comestibles is all-American, New England made, proud to declare itself:

[IPSWICH ALE MUSTARD!](http://www.kerri.com/Variety/IpswichAle.htm)

[pauses to wipe the drool away]

You might like to try some [ale or stout](http://www.mercurybrewing.com/IPS.html) from the same company.

If you prefer something nonalcoholic, I recommend the Mercury Brewing Company’s [line of soda pop](http://www.mercurybrewing.com/soda.html) – especially the black cherry and orange cream.

🙂

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-bush-jr-a-coward-who-lacks-a-sense-of-shame/260938/66 "2004-08-25T00:35:24Z")

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Hmm, sounds intriguing.

But can I get Mercury Brewing Company Black Cherry mustard? Just in the unlikely event that I would prefer something non-alcoholic.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-bush-jr-a-coward-who-lacks-a-sense-of-shame/260938/67 "2004-08-25T01:35:26Z")

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Naw, no Black Cherry version, unless you mix it into the Ipswich Ale Mustard yourself.

It would be kind of runny, though.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2004, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-bush-jr-a-coward-who-lacks-a-sense-of-shame/260938/68 "2004-08-26T06:41:15Z")

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Let’s not lose focus.

Bush favors a smear strategy because he has no record to run on.

As readers of the SDMB surely know, his is the first administration since Herbert Hoover to preside over a net loss of jobs over his term.

Meanwhile, of the 22 “most wanted terrorists” listed by the FBI in October 2001, only 3 have been captured or killed, despite rewards of up to $5 million. The rest remain at large.

Furthermore, according to the 9/11 commission’s report released last Saturday[gaps appear to remain in the intelligence community’s understanding](http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6036419) of terrorist financing. Ouch. Standard police investigative technique #1: follow the money. (#2: Question the relatives. 3#: Set clear goals and hold your lieutenants accountable for the results.)

Now admittedly, Bush has a tough job. All the more reason why the nation’s CEO should be temperamentally capable of midcourse correction. President Franklin D. Roosevelt stressed the importance of experimentation. Bill Gates reinvents Microsoft’s medium term goals practically every other year. GWB’s motto, OTOH, is never apologize, never hold your underlings accountable (Tenet excepted), never engage the opposition –[distortion is better](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26935-2004Aug23.html)–, keep your ideas simple [and your speech clipped](http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/001048.html), and always, always hide behind your press spokesmen whenever you can.

Presidebt: Thanks for the kind words.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2004, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-bush-jr-a-coward-who-lacks-a-sense-of-shame/260938/69 "2004-08-26T12:47:47Z")

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:o

Sorry for the hijack, **Measure for Measure**. It’s just that, when I do keep focussed, it’s all so damned depressing; not least because so many people still buy this administration’s bogus goods. My outrage reserves are pretty much depleted from the constant drain.

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**Author:** ![mack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mack)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2004, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-bush-jr-a-coward-who-lacks-a-sense-of-shame/260938/70 "2004-08-26T14:10:24Z")

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> [@Measure for Measure](#):
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> So what the heck is GWB’s position on this?

He was for it before he was against it.

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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2004, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-bush-jr-a-coward-who-lacks-a-sense-of-shame/260938/71 "2004-08-26T14:36:53Z")

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I though that refusing to meet Cleland yesterday was an act of cowardice. He even went so far as to “release the hounds” on Cleland. Why not just go one step further by turning off the porch light and closing the curtains.

What harm would have been done by simply accepting the letter?

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