# Is George W. Bush a Flaming Homo?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-w-bush-a-flaming-homo/263634>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 8, 2004, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-w-bush-a-flaming-homo/263634 "2004-09-08T11:44:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-w-bush-a-flaming-homo/263634/21 "2004-09-08T16:05:31Z")

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> [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](#):
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> Good lord, I hope not. I would hate to think of him getting new support from the fine upstanding, politically-active voting homosexuals of this country.

Ewwwwwww. No no no no no. Not happening. We’re giving him back. Like Richard Simmons. He can deal-a-meal, you can deal-with-him.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-w-bush-a-flaming-homo/263634/22 "2004-09-08T17:42:01Z")

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> [@matt\_mcl](#):
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> Ewwwwwww. No no no no no. Not happening. We’re giving him back. Like Richard Simmons. He can deal-a-meal, you can deal-with-him.

I’d rather that Letterman attack Bush (in a turkey suit, of course) with a fire extingusher, but that’s just me.

Actually, I’d love to see that happen to just about any politician.

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-w-bush-a-flaming-homo/263634/23 "2004-09-08T18:39:14Z")

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Well, if you were to set him on fire and convince me that he was actually a member of an intelligent species, then you _might_ convince me that he’s a “flaming homo”.

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**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-w-bush-a-flaming-homo/263634/24 "2004-09-08T19:03:41Z")

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> [@stpauler](#):
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> Maybe Bush is just waiting for Oct 11,[National Coming Out Day.](http://www.hrc.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Coming_Out/Get_Informed4/National_Coming_Out_Day/Index.htm) OR, it could be gracious of him not to steal [Schrock’s](http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5926847/) thunder.

Talk about an October Surprise!

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-w-bush-a-flaming-homo/263634/25 "2004-09-08T19:42:35Z")

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> [@gobear](#):
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> Conspiracy theories aside, I’ve seen pics of Dubya in uniform circa 1968, and I’d totally have hit some of that. Regardless of his faults, Dubya was one fine piece of ass back in the day.

HA! My thoughts exactly. I wanna SEE those pictures!

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-w-bush-a-flaming-homo/263634/26 "2004-09-08T19:53:15Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> As long as you’re wishing, **lissener** , would you like a pony too?

Well, as long as I’m wishing, I wish for: the government to stop coddling the poor and to spend all its money on ME, but I want them to get the poor to pay for it and cut MY taxes entirely; I want everyone who doesn’t think like I think TO KEEP IT TO THEIR GODDAMN SELVES because I don’t like to rethink a think once it’s been thinked; I want a president who has the balls to enforce some goddamn decency around here–AND I want a pony! Ooh, plus, I want a \*picture \*of a pony, with Bricker, on a Mexican postcard.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-w-bush-a-flaming-homo/263634/27 "2004-09-08T20:32:11Z")

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> [@Johnny Bravo](#):
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> Sounds 100% grade-A bull, but yes. It would be hilariously fun to sit back and watch the fallout from the Christian Right.

This got me thinking…

Suppose there were quasi-credible rumors about Bush having had homosexual encounters in the past. Bush denies it, but the rumors don’t actually die. Maybe even a guy or two who claims to have been his partner is interviewed on the news.

Now, suppose the exact same thing about Kerry.

Who would be hurt more? I tend to think Kerry.

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**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-w-bush-a-flaming-homo/263634/28 "2004-09-08T20:42:31Z")

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What a fucking stupid thread.

I can’t decide which is worst:

1. Linking to a sensationalist gossip column and saying shit like “it _could_ be credible…”
2. Using homosexuality as “slander”
3. That the right was more competent at it when they did all the “Kerry and Edwards are totally in LOVE” shit; at least that had a sense of humor to it
4. Speculating about doing it with GWB ::shudder::
5. It gives everybody a chance to trot out their fairys, fags, and queers gags, bring up pedophilia and beastiality yet again, and talk about how if you’re a homo you’re not a real man
6. There’s not enough _real_ shit to complain about with the man?

Sheesh.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-w-bush-a-flaming-homo/263634/29 "2004-09-08T21:43:49Z")

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I think that “sensationalist gossip column” might be overly generous, Sol. That’s rather like calling the Institute for Creation Research a scientific think-tank with a minority view. The cite the OP provided is a rallying point for the tinfoil hat brigade. It isn’t gossip; it’s people transcribing the voices they pick up with receivers that the CIA/aliens/Illuminti have implanted in their asses.

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**Author:** ![jkusters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/fbc32d/32.png) [@jkusters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jkusters)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-w-bush-a-flaming-homo/263634/30 "2004-09-08T22:15:30Z")

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> [@John Mace](#):
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> Who would be hurt more? I tend to think Kerry.

You’re probably right, but only because George can use the old “…and then I found Jesus, and all of that stuff is behind me” card.

Skipped out on some National Guard duty? That was before I found Jesus and became a principled man.

Had a few homosexual encounters? That was before I found Jesus and became a moral man.

Used to snort coke at Camp David, drink to excess, chase a lot of skirts? That was before I found Jesus and cleaned up my act.

If played right, it could be tougher than Teflon.

JOhn.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-w-bush-a-flaming-homo/263634/31 "2004-09-08T22:31:35Z")

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> [@Hooch](#):
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> Talk about grasping for straws. What a bunch of yahoo’s.
> 
> \<snip\>
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> Fighting ignorance my ass. I’ve read this board for quite a few years. It has gone from fighting to ignorance to harboring ignorance…

This has been my observation, too. With the exception, that is, of whether the ignorance being harbored here has always existed or whether it’s a fairly recent occurrence. I certainly noticed plenty of it prior to the board going to a pay site. In fact, if anything I’d say it’s lessened since becoming a pay site.

But still, and I’ve said this here several times, there is as much ignorance, hatred, vitriol, stereotyping, and discrimination going on here as I’ve seen anywhere (present company excepted, of course 😉 ). It’s just coming from a different direction.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-w-bush-a-flaming-homo/263634/32 "2004-09-08T22:50:18Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> As long as you’re wishing, **lissener** , would you like a pony too?

Will the pony be having sex with Gee Dubya?

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-w-bush-a-flaming-homo/263634/33 "2004-09-08T23:02:43Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> Will the pony be having sex with Gee Dubya?

Well, he’s such a flaming homo, bestiality is obviously next on his evil agenda! And then, who knows? Maybe Birkenstocks! _The. Horror._

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-w-bush-a-flaming-homo/263634/34 "2004-09-08T23:08:54Z")

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See? He’s already got the [bestiality vote](http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/tshirt.php?sku=a344) nailed.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-w-bush-a-flaming-homo/263634/35 "2004-09-09T00:02:53Z")

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> [@jkusters](#):
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> You’re probably right, but only because George can use the old “…and then I found Jesus, and all of that stuff is behind me” card.
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> […]
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> If played right, it could be tougher than Teflon.
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> JOhn.

My God, that really _ **is** _ what he’d do, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-w-bush-a-flaming-homo/263634/36 "2004-09-09T00:12:32Z")

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This seems like as good as any (for what it’s worth) place to insert an only tangentially-related link to a [very woo Bushy riff on a memorable bit from _Trainspotting_ what dinna need its own thread and yet is worth a look,](http://www.b3ta.com/board/3691591) posted over at b3ta.

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**Author:** ![jkusters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/fbc32d/32.png) [@jkusters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jkusters)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-w-bush-a-flaming-homo/263634/37 "2004-09-09T00:24:00Z")

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> [@Lord Ashtar](#):
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> My God, that really _ **is** _ what he’d do, isn’t it?

It sure would play well with many christian sects and with older, more religiously-oriented people.

I haven’t seen it yet, but I keep expecting it any day with more allegations about youthful indescretions surfacing.

JOhn.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-w-bush-a-flaming-homo/263634/38 "2004-09-09T00:48:24Z")

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> [@John Mace](#):
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> This got me thinking…
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> Suppose there were quasi-credible rumors about Bush having had homosexual encounters in the past. Bush denies it, but the rumors don’t actually die. Maybe even a guy or two who claims to have been his partner is interviewed on the news.
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> Now, suppose the exact same thing about Kerry.
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> Who would be hurt more? I tend to think Kerry.

I agree. It’s the old Vulcan proverb, “Only Nixon could go to China”. Except it’s like “Only a right-winger can suck a dick” or something like that.

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**Author:** ![threemae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-w-bush-a-flaming-homo/263634/39 "2004-09-09T00:58:16Z")

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> [@Aldebaran](#):
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> In my opinion everyone who links phedophilia to homosexuality as if that is only a normal confirmaiton of normal standard behaviour gives already enough impression of his/her absolute idiocy.
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> Furthermore it should be in the so called “democratic” and “open” and “secular” US society be utterly irrelevant if yes or no a politician is hetero- or homosexual or bisexual.
> 
> In my opinion you should reflect on that and come to the obvious conclusions about that so called demorcratic open secular society.  
> The election circus is on the road once again with its mud slinging, degrading and utterly hypocritical race for having the Best Selling Capitalistic Product to be installed in the White House.  
> Salaam. A

I since that you’ve just gained a few friends around the SDMB.

> [@OP Website](#):
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> the Harry Potter books and movies have promoted the Occult and Secret World of Witchcraft.
> 
> In fact, the success of the books of J.K. Rowling (or her ghostwriters) is due to mankind’s endless fascination with the Astral Plane – the dimension of time-space that is the Collective Unconscious and the fount of dreams, nightmares and fear, as well as emotional pain and trauma that lasts for lifetimes.

[http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?ChannelID=126](http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?ChannelID=126)  
That’s sure why I read Harry Potter or go to the movies.

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**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-george-w-bush-a-flaming-homo/263634/40 "2004-09-09T01:30:42Z")

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Maybe what Kitty Kelley is really driving at is that the President is a closet lesbian who had an underage affair with his VP’s daughter. What other outcome can logically be expected of having a name like bush?

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