# Is "globalist" an alt-right term for "Jew"? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 8, 2018, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-globalist-an-alt-right-term-for-jew/810218 "2018-03-08T03:34:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-globalist-an-alt-right-term-for-jew/810218/21 "2018-03-09T05:26:40Z")
It doesn’t only mean “Jew”. It can also mean “climate change believer”. ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-globalist-an-alt-right-term-for-jew/810218/22 "2018-03-09T06:00:24Z")
“Globalist” means anyone or group with a capacity to control others by some nefarious means either directly or indirectly. Almost always used in the context of a conspiracy theory. Ultra Right Fascists (Nazi’s) scapegoat Jews for this all the time. Ultra Left Progressives do the same with Corporations. It is really just a term that differs depending on who you ask (if you’d even want to). I had two college professors who had a lot of coursework on Globalists and Globalization, One seemed to be fairly neutral in politics but she called all Capitalists Globalists as well as every Banking corporation, and the other was very far to the left and he used “Globalists” to describe corporate interests with far reach, deep pockets and heavy consequence (Monsanto, Microsoft, Oil Companies etc…) It means whatever you want it to mean I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-globalist-an-alt-right-term-for-jew/810218/23 "2018-03-09T08:51:40Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > I thought ‘globalist’ was a virtue-signal term used by progressives. You know, one world, no borders, John Lennon etc. [And I thought it was how crazy right-wingers say Jew.](https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/971995891321065472/photo/1) Though if you have a cite for where you found your opinion, I’d be happy to read it. ---
**Author:** ![UDS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecae2f/32.png) [@UDS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UDS)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-globalist-an-alt-right-term-for-jew/810218/24 "2018-03-09T09:44:03Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > I thought ‘globalist’ was a virtue-signal term used by progressives. You know, one world, no borders, John Lennon etc. > [@Chisquirrel](#): > > [And I thought it was how crazy right-wingers say Jew.](https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/971995891321065472/photo/1) > > Though if you have a cite for where you found your opinion, I’d be happy to read it. It did start out as a positive term, though not one exclusively associated with progressives. In 1953, for example, _Brittanica Book of the Year_ defined “globalist” as “one believing in the world-wide distribution of U.S. troops as a defence against Communism”. In the 1960s, the term was basically neutral; globalist/globalism could be used of any approach to a problem or issue which argued that could only, or most effectively, be addressed on a global scale. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-globalist-an-alt-right-term-for-jew/810218/25 "2018-03-09T15:06:13Z")
The Zionists are perhaps the most nationalist group in history(ok top 3), so it wouldn’t make sense. Not that it has to. OTOH, zionists could advocate for the US govt to be globally oriented in order to benefit their ultra-nationalist project. This seems to be the case. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-globalist-an-alt-right-term-for-jew/810218/26 "2018-03-09T15:15:35Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > The Zionists are perhaps the most nationalist group in history(ok top 3), so it wouldn’t make sense. Not that it has to. > > OTOH, zionists could advocate for the US govt to be globally oriented in order to benefit their ultra-nationalist project. This seems to be the case. So much wrong with this I don’t know where to start … 😃 First, I guess, and most fundamentally, “Jews” are not the same thing as “Zionists”. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-globalist-an-alt-right-term-for-jew/810218/27 "2018-03-09T17:24:58Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > So much wrong with this I don’t know where to start … 😃 > > First, I guess, and most fundamentally, “Jews” are not the same thing as “Zionists”. Um, that’s not something wrong with what I said, because I didn’t say that. Since you failed on your first attempt, would you like to try again? ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-globalist-an-alt-right-term-for-jew/810218/28 "2018-03-09T22:12:45Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > [And I thought it was how crazy right-wingers say Jew.](https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/971995891321065472/photo/1) > > Though if you have a cite for where you found your opinion, I’d be happy to read it. She’s mocking the people that claim globalist means Jew, so I wouldn’t come that as a cite. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-globalist-an-alt-right-term-for-jew/810218/29 "2018-03-10T02:48:45Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > That whole three brackets thing is an alt-right way of indicating a person is jewish. From the wikipedia page for it; > > \*The use of triple parentheses or triple brackets, also known as an (((echo))), is an antisemitic symbol that has been used to highlight the names of individuals of a Jewish background. I thought it indicated that someone needed a hug. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-globalist-an-alt-right-term-for-jew/810218/30 "2018-03-10T20:25:13Z")
My wife is convinced that it is in a sentence that includes “Globalist Gary Cohn”. Just a reminder. On the other hand, it is likely that anyone opposing the tariffs is, literally, a globalist. But then it shouldn’t be necessary to use the word. I’m inclined to think she is right. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2018, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-globalist-an-alt-right-term-for-jew/810218/31 "2018-03-11T12:39:40Z")
I like the tweet I saw that said something like, “I’m half-globalist on my mother’s side. My wife isn’t, but she likes the holidays. We’re raising our kids globalist.” Let’s call it a semi-whistle. ---
**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-globalist-an-alt-right-term-for-jew/810218/32 "2018-03-11T18:08:40Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > 1. Alt-right is a term that was coined by the alt-right: > > 2. Seems like “globalist” sometimes means Jew, and sometimes doesn’t. I’m sure it supplies plenty of plausible deniability. 1. That’s true. However, calling people alt-right who don’t consider themselves so is often done by people on the left. Even though alt-right was coined by people claiming to be it, it’s not particularly clear exactly what it means or who it encompasses. But it has a generally negative connotation, a ‘bad boy’ connotation even by those attaching it to themselves. So in the game (both sides play with words) it makes sense for the left to spread it around more widely. 2. Likewise there I’d say it’s more like their plausible deniability on the left to imply ‘globalist’ means Jewish, plausible to deny they know it doesn’t generally mean that. The predominant use of ‘globalist’ is an epithet aimed at conventional conservatives or the GOP ‘elite’ as populists like to call conventional conservatives, those anyway who hold pro-free trade and relatively ‘liberal’ views on immigration. An epithet broadly hurled by GOP populists, not particularly by the ‘alt right’, nor particularly at Jews. It’s commonly applied to the prevailing views and policies of Bush II and earlier GOP admins and ‘conventional’ GOP conservative Congresspeople and pundits now, with no particular regard to their religious background. It can apply to a Democrat (which Cohn is nominally) but mainly it’s an intra-party insult. I believe it’s more plausible to claim the term ‘neocon’ has come to be aimed at Jewish conservatives in particular than ‘globalist’. Which is one reason it’s used so much less. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-globalist-an-alt-right-term-for-jew/810218/33 "2018-03-12T13:01:37Z")
\*"Many argue that the invocation of the term “globalist” carries an undertone of anti-Semitism for a variety of reasons, not least of which is that it was originally deployed by Bannon, who has a much larger record of dabbling in anti-Semitism. In general, the idea that Jews in particular are not loyal citizens is a longtime anti-Semitic trope. And it seems noteworthy that in the initial round of globalist versus nationalist arguments, Bannon’s main antagonists — not just Cohn but also Kushner and Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin — were mostly Jewish. "\* > **[Globalists, explained](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/8/17096876/globalists-explained)** > > Trump used a (possibly anti-Semitic) insult that illuminates a big fight unfolding in the Republican Party. It’s not much of a step from hurling invective at “globalists” to targeting “international bankers” and “Rothschilds”, which gets well beyond dog whistles and into a piercingly audible range. As for related conspiracy theories, the shadowy figures said to be perpetrating them are commonly Jews. ---
**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-globalist-an-alt-right-term-for-jew/810218/34 "2018-03-12T14:26:58Z")
> [@Corry\_El](#): > > 1. However, calling people alt-right who don’t consider themselves so is often done by people on the left. And people on the right love to use the term 'leftist". It’s not like putting labels on people you disagree with is a new tactic. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-globalist-an-alt-right-term-for-jew/810218/35 "2018-03-12T19:46:31Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Um, that’s not something wrong with what I said, because I didn’t say that. Since you failed on your first attempt, would you like to try again? Uh, why on earth are you going on about “Zionists” in a thread that is about terms used for “Jews”? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-globalist-an-alt-right-term-for-jew/810218/36 "2018-03-12T20:42:23Z")
Globalist is the new socialist. It means everything and nothing simultaneously, and everyone who uses it just means “someone who I don’t like” but wants to sound more sophisticated about it. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-globalist-an-alt-right-term-for-jew/810218/37 "2018-03-13T15:56:03Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > Uh, why on earth are you going on about “Zionists” in a thread that is about terms used for “Jews”? It’s like going on about triangles in a thread about shapes. Zionists are nationalist Jews. Nationalism is anti-globalist. Is that so crazy to mention in a thread about how “globalist” might be a dog-whistle for “Jew”? I think maybe you’re confused. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-globalist-an-alt-right-term-for-jew/810218/38 "2018-03-13T18:08:05Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > It’s like going on about triangles in a thread about shapes. Which would be a silly thing to go on about, if the thread was about the term for “shapes”. The fact that triangles are a subset of shapes would make as little difference or sense in that context as the fact that (some) Zionists are a subset of Jews make in this one. > [@](#): > > Zionists are nationalist Jews. Nationalism is anti-globalist. First, not all Zionists are Jewish. In the US, for example, a good many are Christian. > **[Christian Zionism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism)** > > Christian Zionism is a political and religious ideology that, in a Christian context, espouses the return of the Jewish people to the Holy Land. Likewise, it holds that the founding of the State of Israel in 1948 was in accordance with biblical prophecies transmitted through the Old Testament: that the re-establishment of Jewish sovereignty in the Levant—the eschatological "Gathering of Israel"—is a prerequisite for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. The term began to be used in the m Advocacy on... So your statement is simply factually incorrect: Zionists are not nationalist Jews. _Some_ Zionists are nationalist Jews. Maybe even _most_ Zionists are nationalist Jews. But they aren’t synonymous, a fact of considerable importance, particularly in the US, where non-Jewish Zionists wield considerable influence. > [@](#): > > Is that so crazy to mention in a thread about how “globalist” might be a dog-whistle for “Jew”? I think maybe you’re confused. It is no contradiction to the use of the dog-whistle “globalist” to point out that _some_ Jews embrace a nationalism of their own, any more than it is to point out, with equal truth, that _some_ Jews are American nationalists, Canadian nationalists, or whatever - those using the dog-whistle will just scoff that they don’t mean those particular ones, but rather, a tendency within Judaism generally. Or worse, such people could claim that the “globalism” the dog-whistlers are complaining about “really” serves the ‘national’ interests of those pesky Jews. Sort of like the following argument: > [@](#): > > OTOH, zionists could advocate for the US govt to be globally oriented in order to benefit their ultra-nationalist project. This seems to be the case. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-globalist-an-alt-right-term-for-jew/810218/39 "2018-03-13T21:05:04Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > Which would be a silly thing to go on about, if the thread was about the term for “shapes”. If someone said that “quadrilaterals” was really a term for “shapes” and I mentioned triangles, I don’t think it would be too wild, but I’m kinda laid back about what people choose to talk about. > [@](#): > > The fact that triangles are a subset of shapes would make as little difference or sense in that context as the fact that (some) Zionists are a subset of Jews make in this one. I disagreed, which is why I said it. Similar to how you are now discussing something that is a slight digression from the OP, my post was also a slight digression. Let’s just chalk it up to the fact that you really wished I said something that I didn’t say so that you could score some type of semantic point. > [@](#): > > First, not all Zionists are Jewish. In the US, for example, a good many are Christian. > > [Christian Zionism - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism) > > So your statement is simply factually incorrect: Zionists are not nationalist Jews. _Some_ Zionists are nationalist Jews. Maybe even _most_ Zionists are nationalist Jews. But they aren’t synonymous, Yes my second post was factually incorrect as phrased. See, we can both be wrong and it’s still ok. > [@](#): > > a fact of considerable importance, particularly in the US, where non-Jewish Zionists wield considerable influence. No, this isn’t important to my point. My point was that since Zionism is Jewish nationalism, and a large number of Jews are Zionists, it would be erroneous for a dog-whistler to suggest “globalist”=“Jew”. Not that this fact would stop a dog-whistler from making such an equivalency. > [@](#): > > It is no contradiction to the use of the dog-whistle “globalist” to point out that _some_ Jews embrace a nationalism of their own, any more than it is to point out, with equal truth, that _some_ Jews are American nationalists, Canadian nationalists, or whatever - those using the dog-whistle will just scoff that they don’t mean those particular ones, but rather, a tendency within Judaism generally. It is a contradiction. Simply because the dog-whistler scoffs at those points does not mean it isn’t a contradiction. I think you overestimate the power of the scoff. > [@](#): > > Or worse, such people could claim that the “globalism” the dog-whistlers are complaining about “really” serves the ‘national’ interests of those pesky Jews. > > Sort of like the following argument: The “globalism” (or “internationalism” or “Wilsonianism”, to pick less charged terms) that the dog-whistlers complain about serves the interest of Zionists, not “pesky Jews”. That’s what my argument actually stated. Your summary, which included that unfortunate epithet, was an attempt to smear me, which is something I’m quite used to. Do you find that simply substituting an epithet for another term is effective in an argument? Do you disagree that the postwar international posture of the US government has been helpful to the maintenance of the Jewish nation in Israel? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-globalist-an-alt-right-term-for-jew/810218/40 "2018-03-13T21:28:10Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Is “globalist” an alt-right term for “Jew”? > > A Huff Post article talks about a Fox News reporter using the word “globalist” to describe Gary Cohn in a question to Sarah Huckabee. The article said that “globalist” is an alt-right term for Jew. Is this a common dog whistle? > [This Anti-Semitic Term Was Casually Used At The White House 3 Times This Week | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/anti-semitic-term-white-house-briefing_us_5aa0476ce4b0e9381c14ec9b)? Dog whistle? Is “the article” suggesting that people can actually have a useful conversation while all sides chose to make up their own definitions for commonly defined terms? _That may be what you actually said, but we know what you actually mean. blah, blah, blah._ :rolleyes: \*globalist noun [C] uk /ˈɡləʊ.bəl.ɪst/ us /ˈɡloʊ.bəl.ɪst/ someone who believes that economic and foreign policy should be planned in an international way, rather than according to what is best for one particular country : He is a globalist, whereas we are nationalists who will put our country first.\* > **[globalist](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/globalist)** > > 1. someone who believes that economic and foreign policy should be planned in… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-globalist-an-alt-right-term-for-jew/810218.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-globalist-an-alt-right-term-for-jew/810218.md?page=3)