# Is god mad at us, lets ask him!!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 25, 2006, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-mad-at-us-lets-ask-him/381721 "2006-11-25T04:30:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-mad-at-us-lets-ask-him/381721/21 "2006-11-26T00:29:45Z")
[QUOTE=Least Original User Name Ever] We should ask him. Wasn’t George Carlin god in “Dogma”? [/QUOTE] No. Carlin played a cardinal or bishop. G-d was portrayed by Alannis Morissette. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-mad-at-us-lets-ask-him/381721/22 "2006-11-26T00:54:21Z")
You’re right. I remember thinking that it was funny having a Canadian as god. Imagine that! ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-mad-at-us-lets-ask-him/381721/23 "2006-11-26T01:27:09Z")
[QUOTE=johnny M] Well lets ask him. Remember ask and you shall receive. [/quote] I don’t hear an answer from the Big Guy. Maybe that’s evidence that he doesn’t give a shit. > [@](#): > > Hey God your not mad that we want to pass laws that take your name out of everything in public are you? Ah. I see you’re a member of the Church of Christ the Whiney Drama Queen. You know, the one that worships a being who is vast and powerful enough to create galaxies by the billions, but also petty enough that he gets his tits in a wringer because we don’t allow kids to be taught the Lord’s Prayer in kindergarten. > [@](#): > > Hey God your not mad that we have evolved enough that we alone can choose better than you as to when life starts and ends are you? “We alone?” Last I noticed, nature and chance still played a pretty big role in determining when life begins and ends. I assume you’re talking about abortion here, but waving the God Stick in our faces isn’t going to change our minds about it. Like almost any other political issue in our society today, the people who support the right to choose are themselves overwhelmingly Christian. They’ve searched their hearts and their understanding of God’s Will and decided that their stance on abortion is not at odds with their belief in a Creator. If you want to convince them they’re wrong, you’re going to need something more persuasive than, “God agrees with me, not you.” Because the folks on the other side believe exactly the same to be true of themselves. > [@](#): > > Hey God your not mad that in 2006 we are talking about marrying couples that can!t procreate a new generation are you? Here’s one where I simply cannot imagine God giving a fart in a high wind. I can just barely suspend my disbelief enough to allow for a God that actually cares if we’re kind to each other in general. Usually, the economies of scale trip me up there. It’s a very, very, very, very big universe, and we’re on a very, very, very, very small planet. Far from loving and caring about us, it seems far more likely that God hasn’t even noticed we exist yet. But assuming he has noticed us, and assuming he cares what we do… what possible reason would he have for being against gay marriage? Just look at the almost infinite variety of life he’s put on this planet with us, and all the bewildering ways all those animals and plants have of reproducing, and you expect me to believe that God actually cares if Joe would rather put it to Steve than to Karen? And that he cares if Joe and Steve have a certificate from the government recognizing that they enjoy screwing each other? > [@](#): > > Hey God your not mad when we only say your name when we have no where to turn like on 9/11 and then forget you are you? This statement has absolutely no connection to any reality I’m familiar with. This country is overwhelmingly religious. It’s easily the most religious industrial nation in the world. Over 95% of the people living in here hold religious beliefs of some nature. Even if we accept that God cares about that less than 5% of us who don’t think he exists, do you honestly think he holds our existence against the 95% of you who do? > [@](#): > > Hey God your not mad that we are turning this world that had everything into a sewage plant killing everything are you? You might have something here, but I kinda doubt it. Geologically speaking, the Earth’s biosphere gets destroyed and rebuilt pretty regularly. For millions of years, the planet was set up in such a way as to support the lives of giant lizards. Then a giant rock fell out of the sky and killed almost everything, drastically altering the enviroment forever. You could argue, I suppose, that all of that was just setting the stage for us, but that’s pretty hubristic. For all we know, we’re only here to set the stage for God’s True Chosen Race: the cockroaches. > [@](#): > > Hey God your not mad that now thanks to Proposition 20 in Missouri passing human cloning will be in our future are you? Why would he be angry about this? Cloning will lead to two things: longer, healthier lives for those of us who are already here, and another way to fill up the planet even faster. Since you didn’t include the development of penecillan in your laundry list of things God is pissy about, I assume you don’t think he’s opposed to the former. And your argument against gay marriage indicates to me that you think he supports the latter. Why do you think God would be opposed to this particular method of achieving those goals, and not any other method of doing the same? > [@](#): > > I could continue but you get the message. We got _a_ message, sure enough. The question is, was it the message you wanted us to get? > [@](#): > > The answer is a simple one. I agree. Can’t get much more simple than, “No.” > [@](#): > > Vengeance is mine says the lord Yeah, well, God says a lot of things. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-mad-at-us-lets-ask-him/381721/24 "2006-11-26T01:52:02Z")
_golf clap_ Nice response, Mr. **Miller**. ---
**Author:** ![Wildfire\_MM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f08c70/32.png) [@Wildfire\_MM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildfire_MM)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-mad-at-us-lets-ask-him/381721/25 "2006-11-26T02:08:08Z")
[QUOTE=mstay] I thought God was supposed to be all loving? Well, let’s forget that, I can dig it old school OT style. I love the smell of smiting in the morning! [/QUOTE] "\*And he went up from thence unto Beth–el: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. 24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.\*" The Second Book of the Kings, chapter 2, chapter 23-24 ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-mad-at-us-lets-ask-him/381721/26 "2006-11-26T02:16:27Z")
Hey, I didn’t realise God was in league with the godless killing machines! **mstay** , I hope there’s no bears in Indianapolis. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-mad-at-us-lets-ask-him/381721/27 "2006-11-26T02:23:27Z")
[QUOTE=johnny M] Well lets ask him. Remember ask and you shall receive. [/quote] In context, this was in trusting God to provide necessities, not answers. IMO at least. > [@](#): > > Hey God your not mad that we want to pass laws that take your name out of everything in public are you? You really want to take His name out of everything in public? Shame on you. The rest of us simply want to keep people from being forced by law to blaspheme by reciting prayers and oaths that affirm something they don’t necessarily believe. You might look up what Jesus got pissed at the Pharisees for – methinks it was imposing their ideas of what God wanted in place of His Law. > [@](#): > > Hey God your not mad that we have evolved enough that we alone can choose better than you as to when life starts and ends are you? Oh? I’ve heard a lot of preachers claim they know when human life starts. Never heard God Himself say a word about it. Or read any either, aside from Psalm 139, which hardly sets a specific time. > [@](#): > > Hey God your not mad that in 2006 we are talking about marrying couples that can!t procreate a new generation are you? The last guy to make this snide remark, I Pitted. For your information, **Johnny** , some of us are happily married heterosexual couples whom God has not seen fit to bless with children – and knew it was unlikely when we married. Others are people who are currently prohibited by law from marrying the love of their lives in 49 US states, thanks to facile comments like this one. And if you think the only reason to marry is to beget children, I’d like to have the address of you wife, so that I can send her letters of commiseration. She deserves a husband who loves her and who cares more about her than about rutting with her to give himself children. > [@](#): > > Hey God your not mad when we only say your name when we have no where to turn like on 9/11 and then forget you are you? Do you do this? I’ve been witnessing for Him for seven years now here. > [@](#): > > Hey God your not mad that we are turning this world that had everything into a sewage plant killing everything are you? Well, people who think generally as you do have twice elected a man who thinks it’s a hoot to eviscerate the environmental laws when they interfere with his Big Business budies. Maybe you ought to bring this one up with the Freepers? > [@](#): > > Hey God your not mad that now thanks to Proposition 20 in Missouri passing human cloning will be in our future are you? I haven’t the vaguest clue what Prop. 20 in MO has to say, but I’ll be **very** surprised if it has **anything** to do with human cloning. Anybody want to fight my ignorance on this proposition? I could continue but you get the message. The answer is a simple one. Vengeance is mine says the lord [/QUOTE] Right. As you judge, so will you be judged. Think through who you have judged in that post. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-mad-at-us-lets-ask-him/381721/28 "2006-11-26T02:28:16Z")
Oh, and by the way, you might want to read Genesis 12ff. Abraham was among those who married and had no children, until a miraculous divine intervention. I’d like to tell you sometime about Jesus Christ. He came to teach us God’s love and His will for us to live together according to His will. Because whatever it is you’re preaching, it’s not the Gospel of Jesus Christ. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-mad-at-us-lets-ask-him/381721/29 "2006-11-26T02:41:18Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] Ah. I see you’re a member of the Church of Christ the Whiney Drama Queen. [/QUOTE] At last: a church I want to join! ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-mad-at-us-lets-ask-him/381721/30 "2006-11-26T02:46:47Z")
[Quote=Miller] Ah. I see you’re a member of the Church of Christ the Whiney Drama Queen. [/Quote] Can I have that as a sig line, please? Anyway, great responses, **Miller** and **Polycarp**. I do hope the OP acknowledges them in some way. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-mad-at-us-lets-ask-him/381721/31 "2006-11-26T03:07:29Z")
I don’t think Adam and Eve had babies until after they ate of that wretched fruit. Am I correct? Does this mean they weren’t married? Oh my. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-mad-at-us-lets-ask-him/381721/32 "2006-11-26T03:15:19Z")
[QUOTE=El\_Kabong] Can I have that as a sig line, please? [/QUOTE] Help yourself. ---
**Author:** ![mr.jp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@mr.jp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr.jp)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-mad-at-us-lets-ask-him/381721/33 "2006-11-26T10:51:56Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] Here’s one where I simply cannot imagine God giving a fart in a high wind. I can just barely suspend my disbelief enough to allow for a God that actually cares if we’re kind to each other in general. Usually, the economies of scale trip me up there. It’s a very, very, very, very big universe, and we’re on a very, very, very, very small planet. Far from loving and caring about us, it seems far more likely that God hasn’t even noticed we exist yet. But assuming he has noticed us, and assuming he cares what we do… what possible reason would he have for being against gay marriage? Just look at the almost infinite variety of life he’s put on this planet with us, and all the bewildering ways all those animals and plants have of reproducing, and you expect me to believe that God actually cares if Joe would rather put it to Steve than to Karen? And that he cares if Joe and Steve have a certificate from the government recognizing that they enjoy screwing each other? [/QUOTE] This god you describe here doesn’t have much to do with the God in the OT, or the one Jesus believed in. ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-mad-at-us-lets-ask-him/381721/34 "2006-11-26T11:11:11Z")
I think that if God really does exist and the subject of our home planet was raised His reaction would more then likely be “Earth?is that one of mine?” ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-mad-at-us-lets-ask-him/381721/35 "2006-11-26T16:32:30Z")
[QUOTE=Eve] At last: a church I want to join! [/QUOTE] I doubt it. God-As-High-School-Cheerleader really isn’t a fun church to belong to. “If you don’t do it my way, you can’t come to my party.” “You need to have my friends.” “The people I say aren’t cool AREN’T cool.” “What!!! you didn’t kowtow to me and show up to bask in my greatness on Sunday morning, I’ll SMITE you - and tell everyone that you like that geek Bob.” There are personifications of God I get the desire to believe in - and personifications that just amuse me. God the Whiney Drama Queen is one I just don’t get. I left high school twenty years ago and really didn’t buy into the mindset then. ---
**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-mad-at-us-lets-ask-him/381721/36 "2006-11-26T16:41:24Z")
[QUOTE=johnny M] Hey God your not mad that we want to pass laws that take your name out of everything in public are you? [/QUOTE] Er…isn’t that actually one of his own instructions? [QUOTE=Jesus Christ] And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. [/QUOTE] Maybe it’s just me, but I’d class plastering God’s name all over public areas in the same vein, an attempt to impress people with how religious the person or group doing the plastering is. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-mad-at-us-lets-ask-him/381721/37 "2006-11-26T20:38:26Z")
[QUOTE=mr. jp] This god you describe here doesn’t have much to do with the God in the OT, or the one Jesus believed in. [/QUOTE] Your point being? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-mad-at-us-lets-ask-him/381721/38 "2006-11-26T20:47:10Z")
[QUOTE=Polycarp] I haven’t the vaguest clue what Prop. 20 in MO has to say, but I’ll be **very** surprised if it has **anything** to do with human cloning. Anybody want to fight my ignorance on this proposition? [/QUOTE] Proposition 2, actually. The official title, with my bolding: > [@](#): > > Official Ballot Title: > Shall the Missouri Constitution be amended to allow and set limitations on stem cell research, therapies, and cures which will: > > ensure Missouri patients have access to any therapies and cures, and allow Missouri researchers to conduct any research, permitted under federal law; > > **ban human cloning or attempted cloning;** > > require expert medical and public oversight and annual reports on the nature and purpose of stem cell research; > > impose criminal and civil penalties for any violations; and > > prohibit state or local governments from preventing or discouraging lawful stem cell research, therapies and cures? ---
**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-mad-at-us-lets-ask-him/381721/39 "2006-11-26T23:06:41Z")
[QUOTE=johnny M] Well lets ask him. [/QUOTE] Good idea ![Here is](http://www.titane.ca/concordia/dfar251/igod/main.html) a site where you can talk to God online. ---
**Author:** ![Othersider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/cab0a1/32.png) [@Othersider](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Othersider)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2006, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-mad-at-us-lets-ask-him/381721/40 "2006-11-28T05:15:43Z")
[QUOTE=Maastricht] Good idea ![Here is](http://www.titane.ca/concordia/dfar251/igod/main.html) a site where you can talk to God online. [/QUOTE] Interesting bot. :dubious: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-mad-at-us-lets-ask-him/381721.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-mad-at-us-lets-ask-him/381721.md?page=3)