# Is God real?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-real/645750>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [January 1, 2013, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-real/645750 "2013-01-01T15:49:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ishmael\_Jankem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c77e96/32.png) [@Ishmael\_Jankem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ishmael_Jankem)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-real/645750/1 "2013-01-01T15:49:19Z")

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I believe He is. What do you think?

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-real/645750/2 "2013-01-01T15:52:23Z")

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No. There’s no evidence that there are any gods (and why do you assume only one?), and no evidence that they are even possible. And the popular tri-omni god is outright impossible due to contradicting itself and reality.

Gods are just a leftover primitive myth that should have been discarded centuries ago.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-real/645750/3 "2013-01-01T15:56:41Z")

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I _suspect_ that god is real. Not as a “He” or anything like that. No bearded man-on-a-cloud-with-a-penis. More like a concept, the force before the big bang and such. There is so much that my lowly human brain cannot comprehend.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-real/645750/4 "2013-01-01T16:01:12Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> More like a concept, the force before the big bang and such.

That’s so vague as to be nearly meaningless, and would include a huge number of things that almost no one would actually consider “God”. I might as well define “God” as my left sock and wave it around as proof that “God” exists.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-real/645750/5 "2013-01-01T16:02:39Z")

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Maybe God is complex – part real, and part imaginary.

With real magnitude, but going through a phase.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-real/645750/6 "2013-01-01T16:15:40Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Maybe God is complex – part real, and part imaginary.
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> With real magnitude, but going through a phase.

So you’re saying God runs on house current?

Seriously, though, in my book, it doesn’t qualify as “god” unless it’s an intelligent being with the free will and power to have intentionally designed and created our universe. If it doesn’t meet those minimum requirements, it’s not worth considering in the “god question”. No evidence has ever been presented that such a thing exists. Anything less than that, and you’re just speculating about physical reality one level deeper than physicists are currently able to probe.

Even if you _can_ prove something like that exists and it meets those requirements, you _still_ haven’t gotten to the question of whether or not it’s worthy of worship. Or even _cares_ about worship.

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**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-real/645750/7 "2013-01-01T16:20:39Z")

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Yep, he’s real. He’s a white fellar about 60, might have a beard, wears robes quite a lot, about 6’ and 180lbs. Doesn’t smile much.

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-real/645750/8 "2013-01-01T16:24:39Z")

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Hahahahaha! No.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-real/645750/9 "2013-01-01T16:32:08Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> That’s so vague as to be nearly meaningless, and would include a huge number of things that almost no one would actually consider “God”. I might as well define “God” as my left sock and wave it around as proof that “God” exists.

_If_ there is a god, it’s in your left sock, as well. Or it _is_ your left sock, as well.  
I’m not hung up on it.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-real/645750/10 "2013-01-01T16:50:49Z")

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> [@Cheshire\_Human](#):
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> So you’re saying God runs on house current?
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Foolish electrician. God is a number.

See Pythagoras. Or Lucian of Samosota

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-real/645750/11 "2013-01-01T16:54:51Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> _If_ there is a god, it’s in your left sock, as well. Or it _is_ your left sock, as well.  
> I’m not hung up on it.

Well yes, you actually are or you wouldn’t feel the need to try to justify a leftover Iron Age myth by attaching such a label as “God” to unknown hypothetical physical forces.

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**Author:** ![Cumberdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@Cumberdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cumberdale)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-real/645750/12 "2013-01-01T17:08:55Z")

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No. And frankly the universe is much more awe inspiring without such a silly and primitive concept.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-real/645750/13 "2013-01-01T17:20:49Z")

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> [@Ishmael\_Jankem](#):
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> I believe He is. What do you think?

That he isn’t.

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**Author:** ![gr8-2-n-ishy-8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ee7513/32.png) [@gr8-2-n-ishy-8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gr8-2-n-ishy-8)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-real/645750/14 "2013-01-01T18:16:49Z")

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Imagine this…: There was so much nothing for so long… eventually… 13+ billion years ago… everything was sucked into existence… Boom… Big Bang… The vacuum of space is real. 😃

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-real/645750/15 "2013-01-01T18:17:46Z")

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That’s not really what the Big Bang was.

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**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-real/645750/16 "2013-01-01T18:20:08Z")

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There was a really good Indian movie on that topic; it’s _Oh My God!_

It’s about a man who did something mischievous and then is business is destroyed by an earthquake. He goes to the insurance company, and they say it’s an “act of god”, so then he goes against god in court!

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**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-real/645750/17 "2013-01-01T18:22:40Z")

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No.

Why is this in GD and not in GQ? 😛

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-real/645750/18 "2013-01-01T18:28:10Z")

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> [@Cumberdale](#):
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> No. And frankly the universe is much more awe inspiring without such a silly and primitive concept.

Nothing is greater than god. Much greater. Nothing is fucking awesome, in fact, while god, if it exists, is just irrelevant.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-real/645750/19 "2013-01-01T18:43:23Z")

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> [@Ishmael\_Jankem](#):
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> I believe He is. What do you think?

I don’t believe God exists. I lack the faith needed to believe in God without evidence. And I’ve never encountered sufficient evidence to convince me of God’s existence. Especially the proposition that belief in the Judeo-Christian God is true and other religious beliefs are false.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-god-real/645750/20 "2013-01-01T18:45:54Z")

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He is, but not what you think. He looks like [this](http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100119202037/southpark/images/b/b7/God.png)

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