# Is goose liver pate (not foie gras) any good?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 27, 2011, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-goose-liver-pate-not-foie-gras-any-good/607562 "2011-12-27T21:00:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2011, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-goose-liver-pate-not-foie-gras-any-good/607562/1 "2011-12-27T21:00:00Z")

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Animal-rights activists have made [foie gras](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foie_gras) so controversial . . . What if you used ordinary non-force-fed goose livers? Would the pate be any good?

FTR, the only “pate” I’ve ever had was made from pork livers, that’s my only basis for comparison. Never even **seen** any other kind for sale in supermarkets or even liquor stores.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2011, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-goose-liver-pate-not-foie-gras-any-good/607562/2 "2011-12-27T21:24:04Z")

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I think so, I’m no food snob but the first time I ever ate any (without knowing what it was) I was, literally, gobsmacked. I thought it was simply a chicken liver pate and had it on a chunk of crusty bread with a sour cherry conserve. Blew my tiny mind.

I know the objections to its production but still…it tastes wonderful.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2011, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-goose-liver-pate-not-foie-gras-any-good/607562/3 "2011-12-27T21:28:20Z")

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Sure it would. Poulty/fowl liver is rich and delicate even from birds that have not been force fed. It tends to be softer than pork liver, so you could actually have a coarse-textured paté that is still completely spreadable.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-goose-liver-pate-not-foie-gras-any-good/607562/4 "2011-12-28T00:48:00Z")

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> I think so, I’m no food snob but the first time I ever ate any (without knowing what it was) I was, literally, gobsmacked. I thought it was simply a chicken liver pate and had it on a chunk of crusty bread with a sour cherry conserve. Blew my tiny mind.
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> I know the objections to its production but still…it tastes wonderful.

Could you tell a difference from chicken liver pate?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-goose-liver-pate-not-foie-gras-any-good/607562/5 "2011-12-28T00:51:04Z")

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BTW, apparently there is such thing as [free range foie gras.](http://www.npr.org/blogs/talk/2009/08/free_range_foie_gras.html) Its production is made possible by the fact that, when winter is approaching, geese will stuff **themselves** with food if you let them, they instinctively fatten up for the winter.

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-goose-liver-pate-not-foie-gras-any-good/607562/6 "2011-12-28T01:39:13Z")

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Yes, it’s very tasty. I haven’t done a side by side of force fed versus free range, but the non force fed is really good.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-goose-liver-pate-not-foie-gras-any-good/607562/7 "2011-12-28T02:53:41Z")

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Goose and duck livers are very good without cirrhosis, and distinctly different in taste from chicken and turkey liver, and each other. If you like one, I think you’ll like the rest.

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**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-goose-liver-pate-not-foie-gras-any-good/607562/8 "2011-12-28T04:56:50Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> BTW, apparently there is such thing as [free range foie gras.](http://www.npr.org/blogs/talk/2009/08/free_range_foie_gras.html)

Oh, is this how it’s made? [http://www.wohlmut.com/kevin/Recipes/TomDBug-FoieGras.gif](http://www.wohlmut.com/kevin/Recipes/TomDBug-FoieGras.gif)

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-goose-liver-pate-not-foie-gras-any-good/607562/9 "2011-12-28T15:11:43Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Could you tell a difference from chicken liver pate?

If I couldn’t it would be because someone had made the most astonishing chicken liver pate ever!

But yes, I think having now eaten both there is a textural element that is a give-away.

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**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-goose-liver-pate-not-foie-gras-any-good/607562/10 "2011-12-28T15:19:29Z")

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Huh. Timely thread. I’ve never had foie gras before, but have had it twice now in a the last couple of weeks. I’ve never had chicken liver pate, or any other kind.

It’s a very buttery, very rich. As a spread on crostini or toast, it would indeed be pretty wonderful. But the places I had it didn’t serve it that way; rather, you got a slice of foie gras along with some other nibbles for an appetizer. Straight up, I think it’s too much - it needs something to cut through the fat.

It’s good, but not my favorite. I don’t know that I’d search it out again, really. But, to each their own.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-goose-liver-pate-not-foie-gras-any-good/607562/11 "2011-12-28T16:07:47Z")

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What is the **point** of turning a goose’s liver into a foie gras, anyway? Is it just to make it bigger? Or to increase the fat content?

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**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-goose-liver-pate-not-foie-gras-any-good/607562/12 "2011-12-28T17:14:49Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> What is the **point** of turning a goose’s liver into a foie gras, anyway? Is it just to make it bigger? Or to increase the fat content?

I think it’s the latter: that the increased fat content gives it that smoother texture and affects the flavour.

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**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-goose-liver-pate-not-foie-gras-any-good/607562/13 "2011-12-28T18:34:57Z")

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It’s very good, but I like veal too, much better than beef.

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**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-goose-liver-pate-not-foie-gras-any-good/607562/14 "2011-12-28T23:11:21Z")

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> [@AndyLee](#):
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> It’s very good, but I like veal too, much better than beef.

You can **taste** the suffering! 😃

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**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-goose-liver-pate-not-foie-gras-any-good/607562/15 "2011-12-28T23:57:35Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> You can **taste** the suffering! 😃

The best foie gras is made from geese that have been force fed veal.

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**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-goose-liver-pate-not-foie-gras-any-good/607562/16 "2011-12-29T00:36:56Z")

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> [@Hallucinex](#):
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> I think it’s the latter: that the increased fat content gives it that smoother texture and affects the flavour.

It also makes it bigger, though; an article in the Globe & Mail about a free range foie gras farmer in Quebec said that his livers were about 400 g instead of 1 kg.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-goose-liver-pate-not-foie-gras-any-good/607562/17 "2011-12-29T01:19:28Z")

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> [@hogarth](#):
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> It also makes it bigger, though; an article in the Globe & Mail about a free range foie gras farmer in Quebec said that his livers were about 400 g instead of 1 kg.

What does a goose’s liver weigh before it (for whatever reason) fattens up?

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**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-goose-liver-pate-not-foie-gras-any-good/607562/18 "2011-12-29T05:17:35Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> What does a goose’s liver weigh before it (for whatever reason) fattens up?

No idea. One more thing: in the article, it also stated that force-feeding a goose will fatten the liver in about two weeks as opposed to several months the free range way.
