# Is Greece heading for a coup d'etat?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-greece-heading-for-a-coup-detat/601642>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 2, 2011, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-greece-heading-for-a-coup-detat/601642 "2011-11-02T16:18:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-greece-heading-for-a-coup-detat/601642/21 "2011-11-03T15:00:25Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> If the frowns come with sanctions I think they would. Greece’s economy is pretty dependant on shipping, tourism and trade with other EU members + the US. I doubt any gov’t there would last long under an embargo.

Military government might not care, and there’s always uncertainty as to whether or not European countries would actually do so.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-greece-heading-for-a-coup-detat/601642/22 "2011-11-03T15:10:00Z")

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> [@smiling\_bandit](#):
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> Military government might not care, and there’s always uncertainty as to whether or not European countries would actually do so.

They put sanctions on Austria just for letting some Nazi’s in the gov’t. I don’t think there’s much doubt that they’d react much more strongly for an actual military coup.

As to whether a military gov’t would care, I don’t think they’d have a choice. Greece is too small to be self-sufficent, whether they cared or not they wouldn’t last long under an embargo.

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-greece-heading-for-a-coup-detat/601642/23 "2011-11-03T15:19:25Z")

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I would have thought the same about North Korea. But moreover, putting sanctions on Greece could collapse the Euro overnight.

Aside from which, I am generally suspicious when all the right-thinking people assure me that soemthign bad cannot happen. That’s usually a good sign it will.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-greece-heading-for-a-coup-detat/601642/24 "2011-11-03T15:57:21Z")

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> [@MEBuckner](#):
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> That must be some _damn_ tasty coffee.

Maybe it was [civet coffee.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopi_Luwak)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-greece-heading-for-a-coup-detat/601642/25 "2011-11-03T16:12:20Z")

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> [@smiling\_bandit](#):
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> I know, and that was a major part of my point. The EU might kick Greece out - or any nation - if it underwent a coup. But deploying military force would be very unappealing.

That is why a coup could not happen there, or hold power long. "You idiots got us **kicked out of the EU?** I’ve got three cousins making good money in the UK and now they have to **leave?!"**

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-greece-heading-for-a-coup-detat/601642/26 "2011-11-03T16:15:25Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> The requirements are fairly robust. The USSR certainly wouldn’t have met them. From the wikipedia article on the Copenhagen Criteria:

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> This also requires free elections with a secret ballot, the right to establish political parties without any hindrance from the state, fair and equal access to a free press, free trade union organisations, freedom of personal opinion, and executive powers restricted by laws and allowing free access to judges independent of the executive.

So…Wisconsin isn’t eligible?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-greece-heading-for-a-coup-detat/601642/27 "2011-11-03T16:33:55Z")

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> [@Finagle](#):
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> So…Wisconsin isn’t eligible?

I’m afraid you’d be disqualified for cheese-related reasons alone.

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