# Is hatred the glue that unites Trump with his supporters? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 9, 2018, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hatred-the-glue-that-unites-trump-with-his-supporters/822684 "2018-10-09T10:23:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Jim\_Peebles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Jim\_Peebles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_Peebles)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hatred-the-glue-that-unites-trump-with-his-supporters/822684/161 "2018-10-15T15:43:12Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > I’ve not followed your subthread; would the following be a fair summary of the above exchange? : > B: The CBS reporting, when viewed in its entirety. is objective, fair and non-racist. > > JP: Many of us don’t watch CBS; we watch excerpts from CBS on some other source, e.g. FoxNews. It is CBS’s responsibility to add qualifiers to every sentence so that, when Fox runs brief clips, the CBS reporting is still seen to be objective, fair and non-racist. Wrong. This particular exchange had nothing to do with Fox News. Here is the only source I can find with the clip from CBS Radio we were discussing: [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUoOU3xvqU8) ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hatred-the-glue-that-unites-trump-with-his-supporters/822684/162 "2018-10-15T16:30:40Z")
> [@Jim\_Peebles](#): > > Wrong. This particular exchange had nothing to do with Fox News. Here is the only source I can find with the clip from CBS Radio we were discussing: > [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IUoOU3xvqU8](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IUoOU3xvqU8) So **Jim** , you still stand by that Mediaite article despite every issue I’ve pointed out with it? ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hatred-the-glue-that-unites-trump-with-his-supporters/822684/163 "2018-10-15T16:53:40Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > I’ve not followed your subthread; would the following be a fair summary of the above exchange? : > > B: The CBS reporting, when viewed in its entirety. is objective, fair and non-racist. > > JP: Many of us don’t watch CBS; we watch excerpts from CBS on some other source, e.g. FoxNews. It is CBS’s responsibility to add qualifiers to every sentence so that, when Fox runs brief clips, the CBS reporting is still seen to be objective, fair and non-racist. You forgot “post video from conspiracy nut YouTuber.” Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_Peebles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Jim\_Peebles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_Peebles)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hatred-the-glue-that-unites-trump-with-his-supporters/822684/164 "2018-10-15T17:12:36Z")
> [@Wolf333](#): > > You forgot “post video from conspiracy nut YouTuber.” > Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Did you actually watch the video? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hatred-the-glue-that-unites-trump-with-his-supporters/822684/165 "2018-10-15T17:13:12Z")
**septimus** , You recall incorrectly, at least on this point: > [@septimus](#): > > … IIRC, even Mr. Judge, Kavanaugh’s accomplice in the attempted rape, was never interviewed. … [The Hill: FBI concludes interview of Mark Judge](https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/409437-fbi-concludes-interview-of-mark-judge) ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_Peebles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Jim\_Peebles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_Peebles)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hatred-the-glue-that-unites-trump-with-his-supporters/822684/166 "2018-10-15T17:17:04Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > So **Jim** , you still stand by that Mediaite article despite every issue I’ve pointed out with it? I believe the clip is real and not deceptively edited, as presented on Mark Dice’s youtube video. I can’t prove that. But it is one example of many, so I am not interested in writing a lot about the chances it is a hoax. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hatred-the-glue-that-unites-trump-with-his-supporters/822684/167 "2018-10-15T17:36:12Z")
> [@Jim\_Peebles](#): > > I believe the clip is real and not deceptively edited, as presented on Mark Dice’s youtube video. I can’t prove that. But it is one example of many, so I am not interested in writing a lot about the chances it is a hoax. Cool. Give us three more which are not as questionable. If this one is compromised there should be no problem finding other examples which are more clear in intent and presentation. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hatred-the-glue-that-unites-trump-with-his-supporters/822684/168 "2018-10-15T18:10:35Z")
> [@Jim\_Peebles](#): > > I believe the clip is real and not deceptively edited, as presented on Mark Dice’s youtube video. I can’t prove that. But it is one example of many, so I am not interested in writing a lot about the chances it is a hoax. [Thank you for explaining your thought process. It has been very informative.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21267933#post21267933) ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hatred-the-glue-that-unites-trump-with-his-supporters/822684/169 "2018-10-15T19:21:36Z")
I really would appreciate some feedback on this. > [@Bullitt](#): > > Thanks, **septimus**. Your assertions are so far removed from reality and the conclusions drawn by thousands of competent people, but okay, you’re entitled to your opinion. Anyone? > [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > **septimus** , > You recall incorrectly, at least on this point: > > [The Hill: FBI concludes interview of Mark Judge](https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/409437-fbi-concludes-interview-of-mark-judge) Thank you! I sit corrected. Since **Bullitt** is unable or unwilling to respond, may I ask others? How about you, **Hurricane**? Was this one error the source of “Your assertions are so far removed from reality …” Presumably there was at least one other assertion that was “so far removed from reality,” since \*\*Mr. Bullitt \*\*did employ the plural. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hatred-the-glue-that-unites-trump-with-his-supporters/822684/170 "2018-10-15T19:25:47Z")
> [@Jim\_Peebles](#): > > I believe the clip is real and not deceptively edited, as presented on Mark Dice’s youtube video. I can’t prove that. But it is one example of many, so I am not interested in writing a lot about the chances it is a hoax. Did you watch the entire clip? I have a reason for asking but I’ll get your answer first. Did anyone else here watch the entire clip? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hatred-the-glue-that-unites-trump-with-his-supporters/822684/171 "2018-10-15T19:31:05Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Did you watch the entire clip? I have a reason for asking but I’ll get your answer first. > > Did anyone else here watch the entire clip? Yes, unfortunately. ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hatred-the-glue-that-unites-trump-with-his-supporters/822684/172 "2018-10-15T19:34:06Z")
> [@Jim\_Peebles](#): > > Did you actually watch the video? The first video on his channel is “trolling safe spaces social justice warriors.” No, I’m not going to give him any more views. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hatred-the-glue-that-unites-trump-with-his-supporters/822684/173 "2018-10-15T19:46:32Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Did you watch the entire clip? I have a reason for asking but I’ll get your answer first. > > Did anyone else here watch the entire clip? I clicked on the link and fast forwarded to a random point. I landed right in the middle of what sounded like a defense of white people using the N-word. I turned that shit off right away. Great to know **Jim Peebles** thinks this dude has anything worth listening to. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hatred-the-glue-that-unites-trump-with-his-supporters/822684/174 "2018-10-15T22:15:10Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > … Since **Bullitt** is unable or unwilling to respond, may I ask others? How about you, **Hurricane**? Was this one error the source of “Your assertions are so far removed from reality …” Presumably there was at least one other assertion that was “so far removed from reality,” since \*\*Mr. Bullitt \*\*did employ the plural. I’m not in a position to speak for him or explain what the thinking behind his post was. I’ll leave that to our esteemed Mr. Bullitt, if he so chooses. I will note, however, that most of your “assertions” are simply you stating your opinion. I don’t, personally, consider those opinions particularly well-grounded in reality, but my mileage obviously varies from yours, and there’s not much to do about proving or disproving personal opinions anyways. They are yours, and you’re entitled to them, however much I may disagree. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2018, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hatred-the-glue-that-unites-trump-with-his-supporters/822684/175 "2018-10-16T11:14:56Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Since **Bullitt** is unable or unwilling to respond… Unwilling, mostly. It’s come down to opinion vs opinion, as Coach Ditka said. Sorry for the delay. I was knocked out for a couple days last week with the flu. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hatred-the-glue-that-unites-trump-with-his-supporters/822684.md?page=8)