I think that is a huge part of it. Which car you drive has become partisan. Previously it might have been a bit partisan—domestic vs. foreign, but I rarely heard about that after the 80s. Cars are so global now, that it barely makes any sense. I see plenty of Tundras with MAGA bumper stickers.
Yeah, that’s why I always tell people my Tesla is modern American muscle car, because it is, in every way except the V8 exhaust rumble.
If we’re using anecdotes, a group of us at work were looking over the parking lot and noticed a couple of Teslas among the ICEs and that turned into an unpleasant half hour of EV bashing and the same debunked factoids (fuel costs more per mile than ICEs, what if it’s cloudy, still burning hydrocarbons to produce the electricity so it’s the same thing, what if you need to drive 1000 miles suddenly, etc)
I’m not even sure who owned the cars but just the sight of them set some folks off.
What you’re describing is the hostility of ICE drivers toward EV drivers. What I’m describing is an attitude by EV and hybrid drivers that induces hostility. I’ve never heard of an EV driver being hostile to ICE drivers; only disdainful.
Yep. PHEV drivers used to own all of the smug. EV drivers are the Enlightened Ones now.
I love sports cars. I love classic cars. I enjoy the sound of a throbbing V8 and the piercing howl of a Ferrari. I like to be able to gas up anywhere I am.
I will never drive an electric car.
However. I own three of them. 1946 Marketeer. 1972 Melex. and my personal mobility scooter. I love driving them. I guess I’m bi-fueler.
As Elon Musk slides further to the right, more and more conservatives might come to see EVs as a good thing. If the Cyber Truck comes with a “coal rolling” smoke machine, he’ll be a god.
It has always amazed me how we could never sell “Stop buying oil from those Evil Mideastern Terrorists” as a RW meme. I really think this was perfectly explained upthread and has so far gone unremarked.
Bingo.
And every time some false shibboleth is repeated, such as “EV’s burn more fossil fuels than do ICEs”, it becomes easier for the believers to think there’s a conspiracy afoot. And gosh knows those folks lurve them some conspiracy. Clearly all the progressive sheeple have fallen for the false propaganda, not the pure Foxly Truth I believe in.
Not for very long; solar panels degrade with use as do batteries, and there is no way a pre-industrial society is going to fabricate either one of them, notwithstanding the massive amount of panel area needed to charge a vehicle to go any significant distance. Not that it matters; after a decade of zero maintenance roads and highways will start becoming dangerous and eventually impassable by on-road vehicles so even you have a stockpile of gasoline or diesel fuel (which will continue to degrade as volatiles evaporate) or convert an engine over to ethanol or methanol, you will find your routes restricted. If you are truly anticipating an apocalyptic collapse of civilization the best mode of transit is to go low tech; horse, donkey, or by foot. Maybe lightweight trains hauled by teams of horses on remaining trackways or canals where those still exist, but for the most part civilization is back to Wagon Train.
And why do anti-EV folk have to “coal roll”? I mean, what? “You want clean air? Well, I’ll show you! I’ll make it dirtier, out of spite! And it’s YOUR fault.”
I guess these yayhoos don’t realize they breathe the same air? Or do they think clean air doesn’t really exist? It’s a liberal hoax?
I personally don’t have any hatred at all for anyone who wants an EV, but I personally don’t want one myself. I also don’t want to be forced into buying one and buying the necessary equipment to charge it at home.
I’ve never met anyone who hates EVs because of some belief in some sort of apocalyptic future, but I’ve met plenty of folks who don’t want to be forced to spend a huge amount of money to end up with something that is in many ways inferior to what I have now. I’m one of those. I don’t want to be forced to fork over a good chunk of my retirement savings for an EV that has neither the range nor the hauling capacity of my truck. I also don’t want to ditch my old Beetle or my other old cars and motorcycles.
Speaking as a Harley-Davidson rider, these days it’s mostly just good-natured ribbing. If you ride a crotch-rocket, I’m going to make fun of you. I expect you to do the same in return. At the end of the day though, there’s respect for anyone on two wheels, regardless of what they ride.
Admittedly there are some riders who get way too serious about it, but (around here at least) those are the exception and not the rule.
So, the hatred towards EV is out of a fear that you will be forced to buy one? (Not saying that you hate EV’s, but you brought up the mindset of someone who does.)
A while back, I had a discussion with someone who was complaining that there isn’t an EV that could pull a trailer across country. I pointed out that the car he was driving couldn’t either. It didn’t faze him, he kept ranting about all the things he didn’t think an EV could do (many of which they actually can), that his car wouldn’t be able to do either.
But, overall, I think it has to do with the conservative mindset. They seem overly concerned about what other people are doing, even as it doesn’t affect them at all.