# Is Heinz Salad Cream a purely UK Phenomenon, or do others suffer too? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 18, 2002, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-heinz-salad-cream-a-purely-uk-phenomenon-or-do-others-suffer-too/119595 "2002-07-18T12:43:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-heinz-salad-cream-a-purely-uk-phenomenon-or-do-others-suffer-too/119595/21 "2002-07-18T14:31:55Z")
Condensed milk is yer only man when it comes to making caramel slices. Evaporated milk is another matter entirely. _shudder_ “Evap” on jelly, anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-heinz-salad-cream-a-purely-uk-phenomenon-or-do-others-suffer-too/119595/22 "2002-07-18T14:43:18Z")
I don’t eat black pudding, but I put [HP sauce](http://www.higherdesign.com/brownsauce/hpsauce.htm) on toad in the hole. HP is also the sauce of choice when it comes to bacon butties. Apart from my funky sammich, I only use salad cream in place of mayo (which I detest). Kal - Who is about to eat a pork pie with some Branston’s pickle. Yum! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-heinz-salad-cream-a-purely-uk-phenomenon-or-do-others-suffer-too/119595/23 "2002-07-18T14:46:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by owlstretchingtime \* > \*\* > > toad in the hole and black (blood) pudding are pure ambrosia \*\* Good Gad, they are real foods. Regarding Patrick O’Brian novels…what are spotted dick, spotted dog and drowned baby? ---
**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-heinz-salad-cream-a-purely-uk-phenomenon-or-do-others-suffer-too/119595/24 "2002-07-18T14:51:54Z")
I spend quite a large part of my personal life tryiong to convince people that British food has an undeservedly bad reputation. I think I may have put the cause back a bit here: But while I’m Here: Fabulous English/British Food Pork Pies Branston Pickle Gherkins Proper sausages crisps Twiglets Digestive biscuits Marmite Suet puddings Appaling stuff: Angel delight Luncheon meat Bisto Camp coffee UHT milk Swan Any others? ---
**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-heinz-salad-cream-a-purely-uk-phenomenon-or-do-others-suffer-too/119595/25 "2002-07-18T14:56:44Z")
Mushy peas with mint sauce - the most wonderful food known to man. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowWarrior](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7993a0/32.png) [@ShadowWarrior](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowWarrior)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-heinz-salad-cream-a-purely-uk-phenomenon-or-do-others-suffer-too/119595/26 "2002-07-18T14:56:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \* > \*\* > > Good Gad, they are real foods. > > Regarding Patrick O’Brian novels…what are spotted dick, spotted dog and drowned baby? \*\* Spotted Dick is basically a sponge pudding with raisins/currants/sultanas in it ( the ‘spots’ - I don’t know (and don’t want to know) where ‘dick’ comes into it) that sounds a lot ruder than I intended… moving on… spotted dog I have never heard of, but I can imagine it is some variation on the above (possibly a main course version instead of a dessert?) drowned baby sounds vaguely familiar although I’ve never had it… I think it refers to something fairly alcoholic… i’m not sure what the ‘baby’ is made of. oh, and yes Toad in the hole is real food - one of my favourites. It is sausages baked in yorkshire pudding, which is… well, batter , basically. Black Sausage is a thing best not mentioned… ---
**Author:** ![ShadowWarrior](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7993a0/32.png) [@ShadowWarrior](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowWarrior)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-heinz-salad-cream-a-purely-uk-phenomenon-or-do-others-suffer-too/119595/27 "2002-07-18T14:59:08Z")
Oh, and to respond to the OP (just for the hell of it :D) I like Salad Cream too - it has much more flavour than bland mayo, and it comes in nice squirty bottle. hmmm… I’m beginning to think this thread might be suffering froma case of the double intenders… ---
**Author:** ![DeadlyAccurate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-heinz-salad-cream-a-purely-uk-phenomenon-or-do-others-suffer-too/119595/28 "2002-07-18T14:59:48Z")
Mayonaisse is horrible. Miracle Whip is the only thing to put on a sandwich. Put Miracle Whip, sliced American cheese (or Velveeta), and lettuce on squishy white bread and you have food for the gods. ---
**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-heinz-salad-cream-a-purely-uk-phenomenon-or-do-others-suffer-too/119595/29 "2002-07-18T15:00:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \* > \*\* > > Good Gad, they are real foods. > > Regarding Patrick O’Brian novels…what are spotted dick, spotted dog and drowned baby? \*\* Toad in the hole is sausages baked in a batter pudding (like Yorkshire Pudding) and it is the very thing especially with Colman’s english mustard. Black pudding is blood sausage and you eat it in America called boudin Spotted dick is a suet sponge pudding (the spots are raisins). Usually served with custard (ambrosia tinned for preference although Birds is good if you can be bothered with the faffing about) A drowned baby is public school slang for a pudding in a sea of custard. (how do you make a dead baby float? You need two scoops of dead baby and some cream soda) Spotted dog is beyond me I’m afraid. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-heinz-salad-cream-a-purely-uk-phenomenon-or-do-others-suffer-too/119595/30 "2002-07-18T15:17:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by owlstretchingtime \* > \*\* > > Spotted dick is a suet sponge pudding (the spots are raisins). Usually served with custard (ambrosia tinned for preference although Birds is good if you can be bothered with the faffing about) > > \*\* I don’t have the slightest idea what you wrote. Suet is animal lard. I know what a rasin is, and ambrosia. Other than that, I am lost. Faffing? ---
**Author:** ![ShadowWarrior](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7993a0/32.png) [@ShadowWarrior](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowWarrior)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-heinz-salad-cream-a-purely-uk-phenomenon-or-do-others-suffer-too/119595/31 "2002-07-18T15:17:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by owlstretchingtime \* > \*\* > > Fabulous English/British Food > > Pork Pies > Branston Pickle > Gherkins > Proper sausages > crisps > Twiglets > Digestive biscuits > Marmite > Suet puddings > > Appaling stuff: > > Angel delight > Luncheon meat > Bisto > Camp coffee > UHT milk > Swan > Any others? \*\* I would have to move Suet Puddings, Angel Delight & Bisto to their alternative lists. Camp Coffee I’ve never heard of( but I don’t drink coffee), But what is swan? The only Swan I can think of is Swan Vesta’s, but they are matches, so I’m guessing you’re thinking of something else… surely not the actual bird? Angel Delight is yummy - Instant Whip is foul! Semolina with jam and evaporated milk - yum! other good stuff: Cornish Clotted Cream Cornish Clotted Cream Ice Cream Treacle Tart Fish & Chips (no other country gets this right) Stilton Cheese Caerphilly Cheese bad stuff: british curry - by which I mean the yellow stuff with swede and raisins in, made with ‘curry powder’, not the stuff you buy in indian restaurants anything with suet in it. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-heinz-salad-cream-a-purely-uk-phenomenon-or-do-others-suffer-too/119595/32 "2002-07-18T15:29:49Z")
AFAIK, **Spotted Dog** is a euphemism for Spotted Dick, adopted by restaurateurs and cookbook writers when they finally copped on that - heh heh heh - Spotted Dick sounds like a diseased penis. “To faff” is to do stuff. Or to be ineffectual or flustered. To appear to do something without doing anything at all. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-heinz-salad-cream-a-purely-uk-phenomenon-or-do-others-suffer-too/119595/33 "2002-07-18T15:33:13Z")
[Camp coffee](http://www.sybertooth.com/camp/) is this weird, sweet, condensed coffee liquid (resembles a Worcestershire sauce bottle) with an imperialist label on the front. They still sell it, but I think they’ve changed the label. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-heinz-salad-cream-a-purely-uk-phenomenon-or-do-others-suffer-too/119595/34 "2002-07-18T15:44:06Z")
Another big up for Toad in the Hole. It’s fantastic. The batter is made in a similar manner to pancake batter, but because of the heat from roasting it, rises around the sausages and goes crispy. Pure total and utter bliss. I eat mine with onion gravy. Non-English people - make it tonight! It’s easy! And delicious! [Here’s a recipe for you](http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/db/3/T/toadintheholewithroa_9437.shtml). You might need a conversion chart. ---
**Author:** ![Tansu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/67e7ee/32.png) [@Tansu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tansu)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-heinz-salad-cream-a-purely-uk-phenomenon-or-do-others-suffer-too/119595/35 "2002-07-18T15:45:27Z")
When I am Empress, I will ban Salad Cream from all corners of the Empire. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-heinz-salad-cream-a-purely-uk-phenomenon-or-do-others-suffer-too/119595/36 "2002-07-18T15:53:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tansu \* > \*\*When I am Empress, I will ban Salad Cream from all corners of the Empire. \*\* Include Miracle Whip, and you have my vote. Er, we are talking the World here, not just Great Britain? I mean, you’re not screwing around, right? ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-heinz-salad-cream-a-purely-uk-phenomenon-or-do-others-suffer-too/119595/37 "2002-07-18T20:35:25Z")
Alright, I saw “spotted Dick” on Jamie Oliver this weekend. The history of the name is that it was named for dalmations…“spotted dog”. But dogs hundreds of years ago were often called “Dick” (perhaps Rover was out of favour) so it was called “Spotted Dick”. I won’t attest to the truth of this, but it’s History According to Jamie. StG ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-heinz-salad-cream-a-purely-uk-phenomenon-or-do-others-suffer-too/119595/38 "2002-07-18T21:01:04Z")
So what is sponge pudding? We have sponge cake in the colonies. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-heinz-salad-cream-a-purely-uk-phenomenon-or-do-others-suffer-too/119595/39 "2002-07-18T21:10:43Z")
So now this Yank finally understands completely the Salad Cream Scene in the _Gourmet Night_ episode of Fawlty Towers. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-heinz-salad-cream-a-purely-uk-phenomenon-or-do-others-suffer-too/119595/40 "2002-07-18T21:15:15Z")
I will pay money for people not to post about Fawlty Towers. Please, what are those Royal Navy people eatting in _Mster and Commander_? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-heinz-salad-cream-a-purely-uk-phenomenon-or-do-others-suffer-too/119595.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-heinz-salad-cream-a-purely-uk-phenomenon-or-do-others-suffer-too/119595.md?page=3)