# Is Hillary wearing a Bullet-proof vest? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 8, 2016, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-wearing-a-bullet-proof-vest/756883 "2016-06-08T23:21:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-wearing-a-bullet-proof-vest/756883/21 "2016-06-09T11:04:07Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Also, this one in particular isn’t just designer, it’s [right off the runway](http://www.vogue.com/fashion-shows/spring-2016-ready-to-wear/giorgio-armani/slideshow/collection#13). For some reason that looks much better on a 75lb waif. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-wearing-a-bullet-proof-vest/756883/22 "2016-06-09T11:18:30Z")
Even Ronald Reagan took criticism when he introduced his California look, with beige suits and other less formal wear. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-wearing-a-bullet-proof-vest/756883/23 "2016-06-09T11:59:54Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Unless it’s tan. > [@dalej42](#): > > Even Ronald Reagan took criticism when he introduced his California look, with beige suits and other less formal wear. Yeah, if it’s not charcoal grey or navy blue suit people do raise eyebrows at male executives’ outfits. Nothing like for the women, though. Like someone mentioned earlier, there is an expectation of fashionability that can be really annoying. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-wearing-a-bullet-proof-vest/756883/24 "2016-06-09T12:42:09Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I’m _so_ looking forward to four years (or possibly even eight years) of endless criticism of everything she’s wearing. I wonder how often previous Presidential candidates have been criticized for their style choices? #TanSuitGate We will never forget… ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-wearing-a-bullet-proof-vest/756883/25 "2016-06-09T12:58:24Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > It’s my understanding that it’s common for Presidents these days (and likely prospective ones) to wear clothing made of bullet resistant materials. I recall reading an article about Reagan where it mentioned how in one picture a normal-_looking_ coat that he was wearing was actually bullet resistant (and he had more reason than most to appreciate the necessity after John Hinckley Jr. shot him). > > With the amount of crazy-hate Hillary gets I wouldn’t be surprised if _most_ of what she wears in public is armored. Right, I’d expect that most of what Clinton and Obama wear in public has at least one layer of bullet protection, considering how crazy people talk about them. Possibly Trump too, since there could be someone super right wing who thinks he’s not far enough, or a follower could become disillusioned. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-wearing-a-bullet-proof-vest/756883/26 "2016-06-09T13:03:14Z")
> [@Sam\_Lowry](#): > > Right, I’d expect that most of what Clinton and Obama wear in public has at least one layer of bullet protection, considering how crazy people talk about them. Possibly Trump too, since there could be someone super right wing who thinks he’s not far enough, or a follower could become disillusioned. Left wingers own guns, too. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-wearing-a-bullet-proof-vest/756883/27 "2016-06-09T13:07:53Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I’m _so_ looking forward to four years (or possibly even eight years) of endless criticism of everything she’s wearing. I wonder how often previous Presidential candidates have been criticized for their style choices? Men don’t\* have \*style choices. They wear suits (expensive, but never flashy) and ties and a little American flag pin. Even within the limitations of men’s business dress, a Presidential candidate dare not stray too far. Flashy, showy suits are out. Anything TOO expensive-looking, like the stuff Harvey Spector wears in “Suits,” is also out. The casual look, as noted, is out. Barack Obama has been President for seven and a half years and for all I can tell he might have been cycling through the same three dark suits the entire time. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-wearing-a-bullet-proof-vest/756883/28 "2016-06-09T13:30:22Z")
…and one tan one. I don’t hold Hillary’s outfits against her, but I do wonder why she doesn’t wear the pants-equivalent of the outfits that **Flyer** links to above. Not all 70 year old women can pull off a skirt (wait, that came out wrong…); but I don’t know why she insists on wearing shapeless, unflattering tops. It just seems… out of uniform. There are plenty of other women politicians who wear normal, conservative pantsuits: [![](http://old.post-gazette.com/images4/20061211ho_pelosi_230.jpg) ](http://old.post-gazette.com/images4/20061211ho_pelosi_230.jpg) [![](http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/151001140434-tapper-warren-large-169.jpg) ](http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/151001140434-tapper-warren-large-169.jpg) [http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlatest/AP%20Barbara%20Boxer.JPG](http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlatest/AP%20Barbara%20Boxer.JPG) ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-wearing-a-bullet-proof-vest/756883/29 "2016-06-09T13:31:42Z")
No, it’s not a bullet proof vest, its a concealed radio so she can cheat during the debates. 😃 (One of the stupider controversies about Bush, based on a wrinkle in the back of his suit in one photograph.) > [@Shagnasty](#): > > Hillary is never going to be a Princess Diana or Kate Middleton but she is still unusually bad at looking like somebody just grabbed some random clothes off the discount rack at K-Mart and told her to wear them 10 minutes before a speech. I think you meant that she is unusually good at doing that. ---
**Author:** ![rbroome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@rbroome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rbroome)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-wearing-a-bullet-proof-vest/756883/30 "2016-06-09T13:40:31Z")
Considering how long Mrs. Clinton has been in politics, I am certain her wardrobe is as carefully scripted as her speeches. She has heard all the comments, pro and con, more times than any of us. She looks bad in a given outfit-I consider it certain that it is deliberate. She looks good in a certain outfit-same. She, and all successful politicians, dress for the role. As an example of how clothes are part of a role, look at Michelle Obama. Everyone oohs and ahhs over her wardrobe-it is part of the role of first lady. We certainly don’t have an extremely popular exhibit at the Smithsonian for the President’s inaugural suits. Being fashionable is part of the role of first lady. Being fashionable is not part of the presidential role. If Mrs. Clinton always wore fashionable outfits that got great reviews from the Hollywood reporter, she wouldn’t be dressing for the role. I am certain her advisors are skilled at avoiding that mistake. I am sure there are PR folks on her staff skilled in this subject, and she has more experience than almost anyone on how to dress for the role of female national politician. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-wearing-a-bullet-proof-vest/756883/31 "2016-06-09T13:51:44Z")
> [@rbroome](#): > > As an example of how clothes are part of a role, look at Michelle Obama. Everyone oohs and ahhs over her wardrobe-it is part of the role of first lady. Then I just can’t wait to see what Bill gets up to! 🙂 I’m really hoping for shorts, Hawaiians, maybe some Huarache sandals, timepiece by Swatch… ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-wearing-a-bullet-proof-vest/756883/32 "2016-06-09T14:03:27Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > There are plenty of other women politicians who wear normal, conservative pantsuits: And they all have the same slim body type. ---
**Author:** ![Barrett\_Bonden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@Barrett\_Bonden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barrett_Bonden)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-wearing-a-bullet-proof-vest/756883/33 "2016-06-09T14:27:34Z")
> [@Flyer](#): > > Nope. > > THIS is the female equivalent of a man’s suit. > > [http://ak1.ostkcdn.com/images/products/8316354/82/796/Tahari-Three-Button-Snakeskin-Brocade-Skirt-Suit-L15631014.jpg](http://ak1.ostkcdn.com/images/products/8316354/82/796/Tahari-Three-Button-Snakeskin-Brocade-Skirt-Suit-L15631014.jpg) > > [http://www.pinstripeandpearls.com/wp-content/uploads/Penny-Grey-Skirt-Suit-by-Nooshin-Buttoned.jpg](http://www.pinstripeandpearls.com/wp-content/uploads/Penny-Grey-Skirt-Suit-by-Nooshin-Buttoned.jpg) > > [http://msmary.edu/sebin/v/z/Dress%20to%20Impress%20woman.jpg](http://msmary.edu/sebin/v/z/Dress%20to%20Impress%20woman.jpg) Incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-wearing-a-bullet-proof-vest/756883/34 "2016-06-09T15:06:19Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > It’s my understanding that it’s common for Presidents these days (and likely prospective ones) to wear clothing made of bullet resistant materials. I recall reading an article about Reagan where it mentioned how in one picture a normal-_looking_ coat that he was wearing was actually bullet resistant (and he had more reason than most to appreciate the necessity after John Hinckley Jr. shot him). > > With the amount of crazy-hate Hillary gets I wouldn’t be surprised if _most_ of what she wears in public is armored. True. There are bullet resistant vests which look just like regular clothes. [For instance](http://www.lyra.com.pk/denim-bulletproof-jacket.html). [Or here.](http://www.lyra.com.pk/vip-fashion-vest.html). [One more example.](http://www.lyra.com.pk/leather-body_armour.html) ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-wearing-a-bullet-proof-vest/756883/35 "2016-06-09T15:19:59Z")
> [@SigMan](#): > > She can wear the vest all she want but that won’t stop a head shot. :rolleyes: It’s a rule that bad guys have to aim for the vest. [Cite.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxuVau6qiiw) ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-wearing-a-bullet-proof-vest/756883/36 "2016-06-09T15:22:23Z")
Obama has received criticism for wearing “mom jeans”. > **[Obama and His Dad Jeans Through the Years](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2014/03/obama-dad-jeans-through-the-years.html)** > > The president says, The truth is, generally I look very sharp in jeans, which is not quite true. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-wearing-a-bullet-proof-vest/756883/37 "2016-06-09T15:29:01Z")
> [@The Great Sun Jester](#): > > Then I just can’t wait to see what Bill gets up to! 🙂 I’m really hoping for shorts, Hawaiians, maybe some Huarache sandals, timepiece by Swatch… NO, not the “slob look.” Something STYLISH, like a good First Lady. Please step over here, Mr. Clinton, and have a look at our new line in summer suits…They’re fresh, they’re breezy, they’re NEW! > **[Men's Summer Suits: A Gentleman's Guide - The GentleManual](https://www.ties.com/blog/gentlemans-guide-summer-suits)** > > Summer is as good a time as any to suit up. Here's our gentleman's guide on what to look for so that you can find the perfect summer suits. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-wearing-a-bullet-proof-vest/756883/38 "2016-06-09T15:30:34Z")
(Scroll down at least to “The Summer Suit: RED!” They get more and more hilarious as you go.) ---
**Author:** ![Turble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Turble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turble)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-wearing-a-bullet-proof-vest/756883/39 "2016-06-09T15:31:24Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > She was all over CNN today, and in every image, she is wearing a horrible, shapeless “tunic” or pantsuit that frankly, reminds me of something right out of North Korea. Scroll down a bit to see a photo comparison of Hillary and Kim: [http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=54950](http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=54950) ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-wearing-a-bullet-proof-vest/756883/40 "2016-06-09T15:40:59Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > (Scroll down at least to “The Summer Suit: RED!” They get more and more hilarious as you go.) Oh. My. GOD! Is that a comedy site? I thought the sans-a-belt guy with no socks was bad until I got to the shorts! The red suit has nuttin’ on those. Do people actually wear that? In public? Not during Mardi Gras? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-wearing-a-bullet-proof-vest/756883.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillary-wearing-a-bullet-proof-vest/756883.md?page=3)