# Is Hillary's record as Secretary of State good enough to run on?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillarys-record-as-secretary-of-state-good-enough-to-run-on/669520>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 23, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillarys-record-as-secretary-of-state-good-enough-to-run-on/669520 "2013-09-23T16:06:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillarys-record-as-secretary-of-state-good-enough-to-run-on/669520/81 "2013-09-26T00:52:38Z")

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As far as I can tell, Mrs. Clinton’s record as Secretary of State was just fine. She was competent and effective. I think she was a good choice for the position.

The question in the OP is disingenuous, though. She has a far broader record to run on than just that. She came this -\>||\<- close to being President even without being Secretary of State.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillarys-record-as-secretary-of-state-good-enough-to-run-on/669520/82 "2013-09-26T01:37:03Z")

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Hillary’s record as Sec of State is solid, IMO.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillarys-record-as-secretary-of-state-good-enough-to-run-on/669520/83 "2013-09-26T05:30:24Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> You said that he’s keeping the desired tax increases secret. What is the evidence of this? It seems pretty well known that Obama wants to raise taxes on higher incomes.

Cite what revenue increases he wants.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillarys-record-as-secretary-of-state-good-enough-to-run-on/669520/84 "2013-09-26T09:44:30Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Cite what revenue increases he wants.

You’re the one who made a claim, not me- you said he wants to keep the desired tax increases secret. I say this is false. You cite.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillarys-record-as-secretary-of-state-good-enough-to-run-on/669520/85 "2013-09-26T09:45:30Z")

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Oops, missed the moderator note. We should take the Obama tax stuff to another thread.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillarys-record-as-secretary-of-state-good-enough-to-run-on/669520/86 "2013-09-26T12:48:18Z")

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> [@42fish](#):
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> This of course explains why the “Stop Terry McAuliffe” ads that appear at the bottom of my Straight Dope screens have the sub-head “Help fight the Obama/Clinton regime & their crony Terry McAuliffe.” You can just feel the right’s Clinton love, right there.

> [@adaher](#):
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> Cite what revenue increases he wants.

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> You’re the one who made a claim, not me- you said he wants to keep the desired tax increases secret. I say this is false. You cite.

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Oops, missed the moderator note. We should take the Obama tax stuff to another thread.

Correct. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillarys-record-as-secretary-of-state-good-enough-to-run-on/669520/87 "2013-09-26T14:00:06Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Correct. Thank you.

Any particular reason why my post was included, since I was discussing Hillary Clinton\*, specifically the right wing’s current attitude towards her? Was it insufficiently focussed on her term as Sec of State?  
\*At least I’m assuming she’s the Clinton in the phrase “Obama/Clinton regime”

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-hillarys-record-as-secretary-of-state-good-enough-to-run-on/669520/88 "2013-09-26T14:04:15Z")

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> [@42fish](#):
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> Any particular reason why my post was included, since I was discussing Hillary Clinton\*, specifically the right wing’s current attitude towards her? Was it insufficiently focussed on her term as Sec of State?

Yes. This is about her record and how it would affect a run for president, not Obama vs. Bill Clinton.

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