# Is honor a lost value?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-honor-a-lost-value/331081>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 15, 2005, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-honor-a-lost-value/331081 "2005-11-15T00:00:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2005, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-honor-a-lost-value/331081/61 "2005-11-15T22:27:36Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> He can always throw his decorations away and accuse his comrades of committing war crimes on a daily basis.
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> Of course, if he ever wanted to run for President, he might have some trouble explaining his actions. Assuming he really was a man of honor. 😉
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Yeah, questions like, “Where’s the rest of you?” might be kind of tough to answer.

Erek

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-honor-a-lost-value/331081/62 "2005-11-16T14:40:13Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> That’s a tricky one. Does the unjust killing of innocents trump your contractual obligation or not?

I would think that you would have to evaluate every soldier and every incident individually. But certainly there is no honor in mindless indescriminate killing of civilians.

Also, I think you might be romanticizing honor among thieves and criminals.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-honor-a-lost-value/331081/63 "2005-11-16T15:08:03Z")

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People who go on about honor are generally full of it. They figure they have tons of the stuff and others have none.

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