# Is indie rock associated with a certain political stance? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 5, 2019, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-indie-rock-associated-with-a-certain-political-stance/843016 "2019-11-05T07:08:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PlaceboTarget](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/placebotarget/32/1073_2.png) [@PlaceboTarget](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlaceboTarget)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-indie-rock-associated-with-a-certain-political-stance/843016/1 "2019-11-05T07:08:02Z")
I’ve read the [story](https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/30/us/white-supremacist-woman-reeve/index.html) of a woman who says she started hanging out (and more) with white supremacists due to her boyfriend. She mentions his transformation as going from an indie-rock-loving man to a fascist. I guess she brings up indie rock for a reason but I don’t really understand what the reason is. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-indie-rock-associated-with-a-certain-political-stance/843016/2 "2019-11-05T09:30:22Z")
The roots of indie music are in punk, and very much left wing. That has mostly persisted to this day. ---
**Author:** ![road\_lobo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@road\_lobo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/road_lobo)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-indie-rock-associated-with-a-certain-political-stance/843016/3 "2019-11-05T09:50:17Z")
> [@PlaceboTarget](#): > > I’ve read the [story](https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/30/us/white-supremacist-woman-reeve/index.html) of a woman who says she started hanging out (and more) with white supremacists due to her boyfriend. She mentions his transformation as going from an indie-rock-loving man to a fascist. I guess she brings up indie rock for a reason but I don’t really understand what the reason is. I would say indie rock tends to have non-fascist if not anti-fascist lyrical content, although not overtly political. Pro-fascist lyrical content is more prevalent in punk rock, metal, and noise music. That’s more prevalent, not common, and I’m generalizing, obviously, and speaking as an American. Indie might be a modern approximation of hippie, to some people. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-indie-rock-associated-with-a-certain-political-stance/843016/4 "2019-11-05T11:07:02Z")
I’d call indie rock the most inward-looking of all popular music genres, caring mostly about emotions and little about the outside world. As such, it’s mostly non-political, although extreme introspection seems to be more common among liberals. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-indie-rock-associated-with-a-certain-political-stance/843016/5 "2019-11-05T11:40:01Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I’d call indie rock the most inward-looking of all popular music genres, caring mostly about emotions and little about the outside world. The indie music I grew up on was both emotional and fiercely political - 80s Britain, most indie bands were fiercely leftist, and the rest had other political concerns (_Meat is Murder_, anyone?). This may have slipped a bit, but it’s on the rise again