>> It’s not possible for me to travel to the moon using only a bathtub and a trampoline
I fully realise the bathtub is essential but I cannot see why a trampoline would help. 
BTW, newer bathtubs do not work as well as the old ones for this purpose.
“And your dang right absolute zero is the lowest temp can go, if for no other reason that time stops.”
Sorry but this was achieved before…I don’t really want to go look it up but it was a special on discovery so you can find it if you really care… something about putting 3 lasers togther on an extremely low temperature… now the theory of absolute zeroe is taht you cannot get to or even lower, because there is always heat… well we did it and it is a bad theory… remember when everyon BELIEVED that the earth was flat?
also about time stopping
the 4 dimensions (actually more but all theoredical)
ok… imagin this at anyone instant every single thing has a shape, a position, and a time frame… think like this
you have a film strip of a ball falling down until it hits the ground… now in fram one there is the ball 5 feet in the air held by your hand (shape: ball, position: 5 feet in air, time: frame#1) now on frame 10 the ball hits the ground now examine this frame (shape: broken ball, position: ground, time: frame#10) o.k. to aply your theory
at a temperature of -273.15 C, frame #1 is the ball hitting the ground, frames 2 4 5 6 7 8 9 and 10 is the ball falling, and frame 3 is the bal being dropped? NO NOT SPEED TEMPURATURE OR EVEN A RADIOACTIVE SCI-FI FIELD CAN CHANGE THAT! speed is one of the dimentions… but does not apply… think of a picture being thrown… dows that picture turn from a tree into a person? NO!!! how about throwing a TV Does that affect how long the show is? or freezing a tv make a show longer? If it takes you 1 and a 1/2 houres to watch 60 minutes, you are dumb not time traveling!
Stage magicians do it all the time, usually with mirrors. Camoflague (sorry about the spelling) works well too. I saw an experiment on TV where a military tank had flood lights on the side and looking from a distance you couldn’t see anything. The magician with mirrors is actually showing you something else, and it is a physical effect. Camoflague tricks the mind into seeing something else.
And it might as well be me. The Predator’s invisibilty
device struck me as much more in line with the laws of physics, and had some logic behind it.
1 It did not make the wearer fully invisbile. A distortion was visible at close range.
2 When the wearer is in water, the device can't bend or refract or whatever.
3 The Predator's eyes are not visible to humans because they see a different part of the spectrum than we do. The device bends light visible to us, but not the wavelengths that are visible to the P-man.
On a side note, the military has achived long range invisibility with Yahoodie (Sp?) camouflage. Simply mount some very brightlights on all surfaces facing the enemy. From a few miles away, the light blends with the sky and renders you invisible. Just remember not to use the system at night.I’m sorry but that whole last paragraph is just overly crazy and jumbled. I can’t make sense out of it. Now, at best you may have been referring to some elements of general relativity. For example… if you can travel at the speed of light, it would seem to other people that you are living forever, but to you it would seem no time has passed at all. Or something like that. The point is that is time goes by slower for you,you still experience 1 minute as 1 minute. By you’re watch you will still only live to be 80 years old,even if everyone else thinks you’re 150 years old. As for invisibility, i think it’s possible. The primary limitation is that we need a processor fast enough to calculate the angle to re-emmit the light and account for your movement ect. So I say it’s not in any way impossible.
Hey peewee, the templars have taken over our current scientific intstitutions to perpetuate the myth of the round planet theory. Though existence is globelike, we are atually on the inside of the globe. You can not see the other side because light is bent by the heavy mass of Earth. The templars desire to protect their underground passages to the andromeda galaxy and preserve their current advantage over the Rosicrucians. The Rosicrucions must not be allowed to discover the secret of the Total Perspective Vortex.
I have this on good authority from a trained skunk ape that worked as a janitor at the Groom Lake facility during the Kennedy administration.
O.k. so if i freeze your skunk ape does it go back in time?
how about shooting it out of a cannon at light speed and watching it turn back into a baby… (your convex earth is more possible than time travel)
As stated above (indirectly) there is a difference between being invisible and not being seen. At the low end, we have camoflage. At the high end, we have Darkman. In between we have some potential.
Along Cathode’s suggestion, one can be rendered invisible if the view is not able to see the subject. This can be done by hiding the subject (camoflage) or by passing light around/“through” the subject (as mentioned above) or by confusing the viewer into thinking the subject is not there.
The military experimented with this in the early 80s (not sure where it is now) by firing pulses of light towards observers at a rate similar to the firing rate of the optic nerve. IIRC, it worked, but with limitations. MUFON likes to point to this when they discuss sky pictures (not that MUFON is anywhere near a credible source.)
peewee, you made some mighty bold statements without any information to back them up. This is frowned upon in GQ. In that you are new, slack will be cut for you if you are gracious. My suggestion to you (unsolicited) is that you read 200 GQ posts for every post you make-at least for a while. It’ll allow you to become more comfortable with the nature of GQ and keep you from being seen as a crack-pot (not that you are, of course.)
Not only is invisibility possible it is already being done. It is done by a person wearing a black jump suit and stocking hat and then turning out the lights. looks around and just sees glares D&R
…because they’re black holes?
We are close enough to the sun to take readings. I think
they do this based on x-rays. Actually, this is a job for
The Bad Astronomer.
Huh?
Let me stop you right there and say that just because you’ve
been taught that certain branches of science cannot be tested
via the scientific method, they can.
You just have to get clever about constructing tests.
Plenty of astronomical/cosmological, geologic, paleontologic,
etc., tests have been done and continue to be done.
Someone comes up with a theory that dinosaurs were warm-blooded. Hmm. Sounds like it should be tested.
What tests can we devise? It occurs to somebody that cold-
blooded carnivores can survive in populations supported by
about five times their biomass in vegetarians. Warm-blooded
carnivores need about twenty times their biomass in available
food to sustain themselves. Hey, let’s look at the fossils
we find! Veg. dinosaurs outnumber carnivores at that 20-1
rate (taking mass into account).
Further, we predict that future dinosaur fossils will be
found at that rate. Every find is a test of predictions.
A physics example - Einstein said gravity bends light, but
you need a lot of it to measure the effect on light. Like,
a star’s worth of mass.
So during an eclipse, they looked in the direction of the
sun, and found that stars were not (apparently) where they
were supposed to be. Stars right ‘near’ the sun appeared in
the wrong place - not because they were, but because the
light coming from those stars got bent as they passed the sun.
I have no defense in support of cosmetology as a science.
So we’ve made flying carpets and lightning wands? Cool, where do I get them? (Note that a feeble personal hovercraft and a lame taser will not do. I have some serious havoc to wreak.)
Manhattan Project.
Didn’t the government render an entire aircraft carrier invisible by concentrating the crew et al. with a high frequency of x-rays, thereby bending the light around the ship or somekind of B.S. like that??
I never care if I’m seen apon as a crack pot… because usually crack-pot’s call me that… we say people don’t understand the concept of money when they are above it… and people don’t like when someone is smarter than them… (I don’t mind too much because it gives me a reason to become smarter, like a new goal)
I don’t see the difference of my “bold statements” as to evolution… again where is proof that the sun is 1000 C on the outside? tell me exactly how many elements in the entire universe there are… then tell me how many burn that color…
If i said you don’t have an open mind I’d be a crack-pot… I’d say your beliveing all this crap these scientists feed you…
tell me when the 1st black hole has been spotted!
Tell me the color of a dinasours skin.
I figured heck about 99% of all the scientists in the world don’t have proof why should i start by getting some?
As a Son Of Ether, I know that the Men In Black monitor
the SDMB very closely. The MIB know that very few individuals are inteligent enough to discovery the conspiracy, and almost all of these people are SDMB members. The Resistance will contact you, possibly through crop circles, perhaps a message in your Alphabits. Until then, keep your head rapped in tinfoil at all times.
I wanna be a templar!!! Please! Please! Please! I’ll never tell anyone anything that’s not misinformation. Please!
I have playstation 2. Does that help me get in?
DaLovin’Dj
I believe you mean the Philadelphia Project (or is it Experiment). The Manhatten Project was for the development of a nuclear bomb during WWII.
Two things:
First, yep, the supposed “Philadelphia Experiment” was a rumored attempt to make a naval warship disappear/teleport. And lucky us, Cecil wrote a column about it. Evidence that such an attempt was made is sketchy at best, and most likely pure fabrication. The Manhattan Project was the codename for the creation of the atomic bomb. I’ve read that there were supposed to be three “city projects” toward the end of WWII, but I’ve never found out what the third was supposed to be. The Albany Ham Scam, perhaps?
Also, on the subject of absolute zero, aren’t y’all overthinking things a bit? “Temperature” is the measure of the amount of molecular motion in a given bunch of matter. Absolute zero, by definition, is the temperature at which molecular motion stops. You cannot get colder than absolute zero because you can’t get more still than completely still. Simple as that.
Dear peewee,
Welcome to the message board.
You may have noticed that it is dedicated to fighting ignorance.
Here are some suggested guidelines so you can impress people, especially in scientific discussions.
Preview your posts, so you can check you have expressed yourself correctly. (Good spelling also helps in giving a good impression of yourself).
When you make a assertion, be prepared to back it up with a cite (or admit it’s just your unsupported opinion).
Watch out for ‘straw men’ (stating something inaccurate as if it were a fact, then refuting it triumphantly).
Lex Luthor comes from the writers who said Superman comes from a high-gravity planet, so he would be able to leap a tall building in a single bound. Fine. On the Moon, with one-sixth of Earth’s gravity, we can leap six times higher. 
Then they said Superman could fly.
Now that’s pseudo-science.
Magicians use mirrors according to known laws of Physics - to reflect light. Combine that with the fact that our brains constantly make assumptions to interpret the signals we receive, and you get Penn and Teller hidden on a stage in front of an audience.
Clever, but not invisible.
Well, using that ‘science crap’ is how we are communicating over this message board. Science works (largely because of thorough testing).
Your quote from the Christian Holy Book is probably an analogy. “Believe in me, and you will have the confidence to achieve your full potential.”
No one has ever been observed moving a mountain using faith.
This simple requirement (repeatable, observable testing) ‘weeds out’ unscientific statements.
What are you talking about?
Here your ‘straw man’ is that carbon dating is only accurate to 1 million years. Do you have a cite for that?
The two parts of the above statement have no relevance to each other.
‘If there are 2 types of kangaroos in Australia and one type is more common than the other… why have we in the US never seen one?’
Anyway a black hole is ‘collapsed matter which has such a high gravity that even light waves cannot escape’. Thus it is impossible to see any type of black hole.
Ah, yes. Your use of ‘nothing’ implies a spaceship is essential. (That’s a straw man). But why do we need a spaceship to take readings from the Sun?
Try going outside on a warm day. Your eyes and skin will receive ‘readings’ that suggest there is something bright and hot in the sky.
Of course, you could take a spaceship to the Sun - just go at night. 
Now that’s pseudo-science humour…
Words fail me :rolleyes: (rather like your spelling fails you).
Gravity has been defined as the attraction between any two masses. The force of the gravitational pull is related to the distance between them.
You probably don’t know about the scientific method.
It means that if you could come up with a provable example where this did not apply, scientists would tear up the last 500 years of gravity theory and make a new one. Wow!
No.
Ah, so a major plank of science theory has been refuted - but you can’t support it with a cite.
Alternatively, you got it wrong.
See, that’s why cites are so useful.
Well I could ask where you got the figure of 99% from. But I’ll settle for saying that scientists make predictions that things behave in a certain way, and you are able to build things that work by following their advice.
That’s their proof - where’s yours?
I’m quite happy to acknowledge that advanced science looks like magic (I read a lot of SF too), but let’s examine this fibre-optic suit idea in detail for a minute;
Take a single point on the far side of the suit; light is hitting this point from a large variety of different directions; you must direct that light not only to the other side of the suit, but the exact point which it would have passed through if the suit wasn’t there; rays that hit the same point on the far side, but at a different angle must be directed to a different part of the suit to exit; so effectively you need to route the light to an appropriate exit point based on it’s angle of incidence. on top of all that, you have to make sure that it leaves the suit at the right angle from the exit point, you need to do this for each and every point on the surface of the suit.
Then you need to take into account that the surface of the suit flexes and turns, soone moment, a ray entering my back perpendicularly will have to leave my chest in the same direction, but now I move my arm in front of my chest, so the ray has to exit from the back of my arm.
What you’re proposing is a suit where all of the entry points are selectively linked to every one of the exit points and are adaptive.
I don’t think that’s ever going to be possible, no matter what; making a rigid box that behaves in this way would possible though.
Now I’m not saying that a suit of some sort won’t ever be possible; it might be possible to make something that renders you difficult to see if you were standing on a hilltop and would (without the suit) be in silhouette, but that’s just because the sky doesn’t have too much detail in it, likewise you could use something like this as camouflage, but I think it’s never going to be possible to make a sufficiently adaptive flexible person-suit that works so well that you can read a newspaper through the person, incremental process or not.
Peewee,
Throwing out Zeno’s Paradox with a mixture Heisenberg’s Uncertainty principle and throwing them like Jackson Pollack’s paint doesnt make a ball start moving at absolute zero